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Car Alternator used to charge batteries SteveC 03-03-2008
Posted by SteveC on March 3, 2008, 10:25 am
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if you could somehow power a car alternator to run, could you charge a bank
of batteries somehow? Like using solar power to power an electric motor,
which in turn, turns the alternator which charges up the batteries?

Time to hit the junkyard for a couple of cheap alternators for an
experiment!!



Posted by Morris Dovey on March 3, 2008, 10:18 am
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SteveC wrote:
>
> if you could somehow power a car alternator to run, could you charge a bank
> of batteries somehow? Like using solar power to power an electric motor,
> which in turn, turns the alternator which charges up the batteries?

Eh? Too many steps! Just use your solar power to charge the
batteries.

> Time to hit the junkyard for a couple of cheap alternators for an
> experiment!!

Have fun!

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto

Posted by Ray King on March 3, 2008, 11:53 am
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Steve,
Car Alternators can be efficient but a major modification is needed first.
The field is about 3 amps. 3 amps times 14 volts is 42 watts. You have 30-42
watts to satisfy before you can push any current into a battery, so replace
the rotating field ( removing the brushes also ) and replacing the field
with a donut magnet. You may not have quite as much current but you start
off with a much more efficient generator.

Ray



> if you could somehow power a car alternator to run, could you charge a
> bank of batteries somehow? Like using solar power to power an electric
> motor, which in turn, turns the alternator which charges up the batteries?
>
> Time to hit the junkyard for a couple of cheap alternators for an
> experiment!!
>



Posted by Ulysses on March 3, 2008, 4:11 pm
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> Steve,
> Car Alternators can be efficient but a major modification is needed first.
> The field is about 3 amps. 3 amps times 14 volts is 42 watts. You have
30-42
> watts to satisfy before you can push any current into a battery, so
replace
> the rotating field ( removing the brushes also ) and replacing the field
> with a donut magnet. You may not have quite as much current but you start
> off with a much more efficient generator.
>
> Ray

Do you have any sources for a donut maget that'll fit an alternator? I've
had no luck while searching for one.

>
>
>
> > if you could somehow power a car alternator to run, could you charge a
> > bank of batteries somehow? Like using solar power to power an electric
> > motor, which in turn, turns the alternator which charges up the
batteries?
> >
> > Time to hit the junkyard for a couple of cheap alternators for an
> > experiment!!
> >
>
>



Posted by Todd on March 6, 2008, 1:40 pm
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> Steve,
> Car Alternators can be efficient but a major modification is needed first.
> The field is about 3 amps. 3 amps times 14 volts is 42 watts. You have 30-42
> watts to satisfy before you can push any current into a battery, so replace
> the rotating field ( removing the brushes also ) and replacing the field
> with a donut magnet. You may not have quite as much current but you start
> off with a much more efficient generator.
>
My mileage differs. For three years I've been charging a bank of 10
car batteries with a standard car alternator driven by a small (4KW)
diesel burning waste vegetable oil. The armature current is .7A at
3.3V or a little over 2 watts.

Rather than use the alternator's charge controller, I use my solar
panel charge controller (both for my PV panel and my alternator ...
against the controller manufacturer's guidance ... thus with a void
warranty).

I've done it for three years now. The batteries have a 6 year warranty
and cost $64 each. The alternator came from a junk yard at $10. The
charge controller cost about $175.

Todd Marshall
Plantersville, TX

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