http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html

yeah, buddy.

A nuke that you just truck in, plop down, make power for 40 years or so and then
just
truck back to the factory for refurbishing. No muss, no fuss and no
environmental
impact outside the fence. A small plant, smaller than a gas turbine that runs on
automatic and could (given the proper regulatory climate) operate unattended.

Y'all can screw around with your piddlin' solar and wind toys all you like. (I'd
love to see either of those here right now, going into our 6th day without sun
and
calm winds.) I'm lining up to get one of these for my community....

Ya know, it really gives on the warm juicy feeling when a 20+ year old
prediction and
vision comes true, even in the details. This is what I've been advocating for
and
writing about at least that long, what I call "neighborhood nukes". I predicted
that
when it happened, it would be the japs, with their no-nonsense "get 'er done"
attitude who would actually do it. I would not have figured Toshiba but who
knew?

Looks like the japs have the spectrum covered. They make heavy nukes, of course.
Then there is the 50MW unit that's planned for Alaska. A "community nuke".
This,
the neighborhood nuke.

I've always felt that I was 20 years too young to have experienced the true
heyday of
nuclear physics. Oh, to have been there during the War. Now I'm starting to
feel
that I'm 20 years too old to experience the coming nuclear Renaissance. Damn, a
day
late and all that.

John
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Posted by Anthony Matonak on December 19, 2007, 1:27 pm

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Neon John wrote:

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html

> A nuke that you just truck in, plop down, make power for 40 years or so and

then just

> truck back to the factory for refurbishing. No muss, no fuss and no

environmental

> impact outside the fence. A small plant, smaller than a gas turbine that runs

> automatic and could (given the proper regulatory climate) operate unattended.

It's a little overkill for a single home at 200kW. Most homes average
much less than 2kW and an energy efficient home less than half a kW.
An RTG is a better fit for a single home, or better yet the newer
SRG (stirling radioisotope generator) if they can get it working as
reliably. A side benefit is plenty of free heat.

Of course, what with terrorism, dirty bombs and all kinds of worries
about nuclear safety, no one is ever going to let you install a home
nuclear reactor even if you could afford it.

I'll stick with technology that can actually be purchased.

Anthony

Posted by Don Bruder on December 19, 2007, 1:50 pm

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> Neon John wrote:

> > http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-1

> > 2.17b.html

> >

> > A nuke that you just truck in, plop down, make power for 40 years or so and

> > then just

> > truck back to the factory for refurbishing. No muss, no fuss and no

> > environmental

> > impact outside the fence. A small plant, smaller than a gas turbine that

> > runs on

> > automatic and could (given the proper regulatory climate) operate

> > unattended.

> It's a little overkill for a single home at 200kW. Most homes average

> much less than 2kW and an energy efficient home less than half a kW.

> An RTG is a better fit for a single home, or better yet the newer

> SRG (stirling radioisotope generator) if they can get it working as

> reliably. A side benefit is plenty of free heat.

> Of course, what with terrorism, dirty bombs and all kinds of worries

> about nuclear safety, no one is ever going to let you install a home

> nuclear reactor even if you could afford it.

I tend to agree - The paranoia levels will keep this from getting
anywhere in the USA. *MAYBE* in other countries, but I wouldn't be
surprised if the US doesn't "lean on" (See also Iran...) any country
that actually considers letting them be installed.

> I'll stick with technology that can actually be purchased.

> Anthony

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Posted by cbx on December 21, 2007, 8:45 am

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Yep, that will guarantee higher oil prices for the guys
running things... Their oil stocks should soar...

wrote:

>> Neon John wrote:

>> > http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-1

>> > 2.17b.html

>> >

>> > A nuke that you just truck in, plop down, make power for 40 years or so and

>> > then just

>> > truck back to the factory for refurbishing. No muss, no fuss and no

>> > environmental

>> > impact outside the fence. A small plant, smaller than a gas turbine that

>> > runs on

>> > automatic and could (given the proper regulatory climate) operate

>> > unattended.

>> It's a little overkill for a single home at 200kW. Most homes average

>> much less than 2kW and an energy efficient home less than half a kW.

>> An RTG is a better fit for a single home, or better yet the newer

>> SRG (stirling radioisotope generator) if they can get it working as

>> reliably. A side benefit is plenty of free heat.

>> Of course, what with terrorism, dirty bombs and all kinds of worries

>> about nuclear safety, no one is ever going to let you install a home

>> nuclear reactor even if you could afford it.

>I tend to agree - The paranoia levels will keep this from getting

>anywhere in the USA. *MAYBE* in other countries, but I wouldn't be

>surprised if the US doesn't "lean on" (See also Iran...) any country

>that actually considers letting them be installed.

>> I'll stick with technology that can actually be purchased.

>> Anthony

Posted by Pete C. on December 19, 2007, 3:00 pm

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Anthony Matonak wrote:

> Neon John wrote:

> >

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html

> >

> > A nuke that you just truck in, plop down, make power for 40 years or so and

then just

> > truck back to the factory for refurbishing. No muss, no fuss and no

environmental

> > impact outside the fence. A small plant, smaller than a gas turbine that

runs on

> > automatic and could (given the proper regulatory climate) operate unattended.

> It's a little overkill for a single home at 200kW. Most homes average

> much less than 2kW and an energy efficient home less than half a kW.

> An RTG is a better fit for a single home, or better yet the newer

> SRG (stirling radioisotope generator) if they can get it working as

> reliably. A side benefit is plenty of free heat.

> Of course, what with terrorism, dirty bombs and all kinds of worries

> about nuclear safety, no one is ever going to let you install a home

> nuclear reactor even if you could afford it.

> I'll stick with technology that can actually be purchased.

> Anthony

"Neighborhood Nuke" as NJ put it implies it would service a number of
homes. I expect 200kW would handle about 15 - 25 homes, more if used
with better conservation.

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