Re: alt.energy.homepower needs a new home

Home Power - Home Power/Home-Made Power for Off-Grid Living. 

Bookmark this page:  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
Re: alt.energy.homepower needs a new home Ulysses 06-17-2008
Posted by daestrom on June 19, 2008, 6:27 pm
Please log in for more thread options
Balanced View wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
>> Balanced View wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The newsgroups are dying anyway, groups I've read since the mid
>>>>> 90's are down to a few hardcore old timers or
>>>>> Right and Left loonies. Last one out please turn out the
>>>>> lights........
>>>> I disagree.
>>>>
>>>> I reckon it's as healthy as ever and what with this NY Attorney
>>>> General's attempts to limit free speech, and some publicity of
>>>> same, it may gain a new rush of popularity. I have to say, I've learnt
>>>> as much from usenet as the entire www.
>>>>
>>> The stats don't bear you out , this group currently only has 943
>>> subscribers and 516 messages per month,
>>> it was in the thousands when I first found this place before the
>>> millenium. One of my favorite groups since
>>> 1997 now is down to 541 members, down from over 12,000 in 1999, now
>>> sometimes over there they'll be no
>>> new posts for three or four days in a row.
>>>
>>> It's sad, I've always enjoyed Usenet, I've even traveled half way
>>> round the world to visit people I'd never physically
>>> met, but had yacked back and forth with for five years.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry you feel that way.
>>
>> I feel a new surge of Usenetters coming this way.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>>
> I hope so too, but the states don't bear indicate that by a long shot.
> What I could see happening is Usenet
> becomes a sort of "Underground Movement" of the internet, but it
> doesn't have the bells and whistles
> the younger generation is looking for.

Awe... Like any 'new thing', the glitz and flash draw crowds. But soon the
*content* is what matters.

Sort of like youtube. Everybody that has a cell phone wants to make their
own dumb video. But after a while you get tired of watching some nameless
idiot skate-board into a wall, or other stupid stunt. Then you want to find
something that is really going to engage your brain.

Well okay, for us older types it's 'engage your brain', I suppose for the
<30 crowd it's 'engage your penis' :-)

daestrom


Posted by Balanced View on June 19, 2008, 8:46 pm
Please log in for more thread options
daestrom wrote:
> Balanced View wrote:
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The newsgroups are dying anyway, groups I've read since the mid
>>>>>> 90's are down to a few hardcore old timers or
>>>>>> Right and Left loonies. Last one out please turn out the
>>>>>> lights........
>>>>> I disagree.
>>>>>
>>>>> I reckon it's as healthy as ever and what with this NY Attorney
>>>>> General's attempts to limit free speech, and some publicity of
>>>>> same, it may gain a new rush of popularity. I have to say, I've
>>>>> learnt as much from usenet as the entire www.
>>>>>
>>>> The stats don't bear you out , this group currently only has 943
>>>> subscribers and 516 messages per month,
>>>> it was in the thousands when I first found this place before the
>>>> millenium. One of my favorite groups since
>>>> 1997 now is down to 541 members, down from over 12,000 in 1999, now
>>>> sometimes over there they'll be no
>>>> new posts for three or four days in a row.
>>>>
>>>> It's sad, I've always enjoyed Usenet, I've even traveled half way
>>>> round the world to visit people I'd never physically
>>>> met, but had yacked back and forth with for five years.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry you feel that way.
>>>
>>> I feel a new surge of Usenetters coming this way.
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I hope so too, but the states don't bear indicate that by a long shot.
>> What I could see happening is Usenet
>> becomes a sort of "Underground Movement" of the internet, but it
>> doesn't have the bells and whistles
>> the younger generation is looking for.
>
> Awe... Like any 'new thing', the glitz and flash draw crowds. But
> soon the *content* is what matters.
>
> Sort of like youtube. Everybody that has a cell phone wants to make
> their own dumb video. But after a while you get tired of watching
> some nameless idiot skate-board into a wall, or other stupid stunt.
> Then you want to find something that is really going to engage your
> brain.
>
> Well okay, for us older types it's 'engage your brain', I suppose for
> the <30 crowd it's 'engage your penis' :-)
>
> daestrom
>
It's what I've always found great about Usenet, you could find a
dedicated group for just about everything, full of obscure information
probably impossible to find anywhere else.

Posted by daestrom on June 19, 2008, 6:23 pm
Please log in for more thread options
Balanced View wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
>> Balanced View wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The newsgroups are dying anyway, groups I've read since the mid
>>> 90's are down to a few hardcore old timers or
>>> Right and Left loonies. Last one out please turn out the
>>> lights........
>>
>> I disagree.
>>
>> I reckon it's as healthy as ever and what with this NY Attorney
>> General's attempts to limit free speech, and some publicity of same,
>> it may gain a new rush of popularity. I have to say, I've learnt as much
>> from usenet as the entire www.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>
> The stats don't bear you out , this group currently only has 943
> subscribers and 516 messages per month,
> it was in the thousands when I first found this place before the
> millenium. One of my favorite groups since
> 1997 now is down to 541 members, down from over 12,000 in 1999, now
> sometimes over there they'll be no
> new posts for three or four days in a row.
>

Off-the-wall question...

How do you count 'members'? I've seen some that 'nym-shift' all the time,
so they would count as four or five 'members'. I've never 'signed up' for a
group to become a 'member', just started posting.

A couple of groups have been flooded with OT politco's, 'fringe' posters and
trolls that I hardly ever post there anymore ('alt.energy.renewable' comes
to mind). Yet I do stroll over and look for any on-topic posts every week,
just to see if there is anything relavent. How could one 'count' these??

daestrom


Posted by Balanced View on June 19, 2008, 8:44 pm
Please log in for more thread options
daestrom wrote:
> Balanced View wrote:
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The newsgroups are dying anyway, groups I've read since the mid
>>>> 90's are down to a few hardcore old timers or
>>>> Right and Left loonies. Last one out please turn out the
>>>> lights........
>>>
>>> I disagree.
>>>
>>> I reckon it's as healthy as ever and what with this NY Attorney
>>> General's attempts to limit free speech, and some publicity of same,
>>> it may gain a new rush of popularity. I have to say, I've learnt as
>>> much from usenet as the entire www.
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The stats don't bear you out , this group currently only has 943
>> subscribers and 516 messages per month,
>> it was in the thousands when I first found this place before the
>> millenium. One of my favorite groups since
>> 1997 now is down to 541 members, down from over 12,000 in 1999, now
>> sometimes over there they'll be no
>> new posts for three or four days in a row.
>>
>
> Off-the-wall question...
>
> How do you count 'members'? I've seen some that 'nym-shift' all the
> time, so they would count as four or five 'members'. I've never
> 'signed up' for a group to become a 'member', just started posting.
>
> A couple of groups have been flooded with OT politco's, 'fringe'
> posters and trolls that I hardly ever post there anymore
> ('alt.energy.renewable' comes to mind). Yet I do stroll over and look
> for any on-topic posts every week, just to see if there is anything
> relavent. How could one 'count' these??
>
> daestrom
>

I've always used Mozilla based Mail/browsers to read Usenet, to read a
group you have to subscribe from the "File" tool bar.
Dejanews used to list the number of subscribers, as Google does now.
Just go to google groups- explore groups-and type in
the name of the group and it will list the number of readers and monthly
posts.

Posted by daestrom on June 20, 2008, 6:09 pm
Please log in for more thread options
Balanced View wrote:
> daestrom wrote:
>> Balanced View wrote:
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The newsgroups are dying anyway, groups I've read since the mid
>>>>> 90's are down to a few hardcore old timers or
>>>>> Right and Left loonies. Last one out please turn out the
>>>>> lights........
>>>>
>>>> I disagree.
>>>>
>>>> I reckon it's as healthy as ever and what with this NY Attorney
>>>> General's attempts to limit free speech, and some publicity of
>>>> same, it may gain a new rush of popularity. I have to say, I've
>>>> learnt as much from usenet as the entire www.
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The stats don't bear you out , this group currently only has 943
>>> subscribers and 516 messages per month,
>>> it was in the thousands when I first found this place before the
>>> millenium. One of my favorite groups since
>>> 1997 now is down to 541 members, down from over 12,000 in 1999, now
>>> sometimes over there they'll be no
>>> new posts for three or four days in a row.
>>>
>>
>> Off-the-wall question...
>>
>> How do you count 'members'? I've seen some that 'nym-shift' all the
>> time, so they would count as four or five 'members'. I've never
>> 'signed up' for a group to become a 'member', just started posting.
>>
>> A couple of groups have been flooded with OT politco's, 'fringe'
>> posters and trolls that I hardly ever post there anymore
>> ('alt.energy.renewable' comes to mind). Yet I do stroll over and
>> look for any on-topic posts every week, just to see if there is
>> anything relavent. How could one 'count' these??
>>
>> daestrom
>>
>
> I've always used Mozilla based Mail/browsers to read Usenet, to read a
> group you have to subscribe from the "File" tool bar.

I don't think that 'subscribe' goes back to the server. It's just a way of
telling your reader to remember that group and automatically get the message
headers. OE is the same way, but 'subscribing' doesn't send anything in
particular to the news server.

daestrom


Similar ThreadsPosted
Re: alt.energy.homepower needs a new home June 14, 2008, 10:34 pm
Re: alt.energy.homepower needs a new home June 15, 2008, 1:23 pm
Re: alt.energy.homepower needs a new home June 16, 2008, 12:04 am
Hydro Energy for the Home November 13, 2007, 2:03 am
Using Alternative Energy for only part of Home Electric July 31, 2008, 10:28 pm
Digital home power/energy monitor September 22, 2008, 12:04 am
Hoping for An Alternative Homepower Expert October 30, 2007, 10:43 am
2009 Federal Tax Credis for Home Improvements for Power Systems and Energy Efficiency October 25, 2008, 9:18 am
Green Energy Summit 2009: Clean Technology, Renewable Energy, and Sustainability November 15, 2008, 12:52 am
Asia's largest conference on Green Energy, Clean Technology and Renewable energy November 20, 2008, 1:30 am

Contact Us | Privacy Policy
XML SitemapXML Sitemap