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Subject Author Date Trace 4048 E Z Peaces 05-07-2008  Re: Trace 4048 RW Salnick 05-07-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Kitep 05-07-2008  Re: Trace 4048 E Z Peaces 05-07-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Jordan Hazen 05-08-2008  Re: Trace 4048 E Z Peaces 05-08-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Ron Rosenfeld 05-08-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Ulysses 05-08-2008  Re: Trace 4048 E Z Peaces 05-10-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Bruce in alaska 05-10-2008  Re: Trace 4048 E Z Peaces 05-12-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Bruce in alaska 05-13-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Bob F 05-13-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Solar Flare 05-14-2008  Re: Trace 4048 E Z Peaces 05-18-2008  Re: Trace 4048 Solar Flare 05-23-2008  Re: Trace 4048 E Z Peaces 05-23-2008
Posted by E Z Peaces on May 8, 2008, 1:47 pm Please log in for more thread options Jordan Hazen wrote: >> My BIL has a windmill that charges batteries to power a Trace 4048 >> sine-wave inverter. He also has a Bosche washer. It worked fine on the >> inverter for several months. >> >> After that, the washer wouldn't come on unless something else was >> putting a load on the inverter. The washer works fine on grid power. >> >> From a thousand miles away, I imagine two possibilities. One is that >> this inverter was not designed to produce a good sine wave when idling. >> The other is that a capacitor in the inverter has deteriorated. >> >> Any advice? > > This model of inverter has a "search mode" (the idling state another > poster mentioned), where it sends out AC power only in brief pulses, > in order to detect whether a load is trying to draw any significant > current (in which case the inverter will switch fully-on). > > This doesn't work very well with some appliances, though, especially > those with electronic controls. > > He might try manually forcing the inverter to always-on before running > the washer. This can be done from the front panel (or remote panel, > if one is connected), by simply pressing the red "ON/OFF MENU" button > several times to move from "SRCH" (search) to "ON". > > Don't forget to set it back to SRCH after the washing's done, to avoid > unnecessary battery drain. Thanks, I'll forward this. I wish I could talk him into subscribing to this group. He has never tried usenet. Posted by Ron Rosenfeld on May 8, 2008, 7:07 am Please log in for more thread options wrote: >My BIL has a windmill that charges batteries to power a Trace 4048 >sine-wave inverter. He also has a Bosche washer. It worked fine on the >inverter for several months. > >After that, the washer wouldn't come on unless something else was >putting a load on the inverter. The washer works fine on grid power. > > From a thousand miles away, I imagine two possibilities. One is that >this inverter was not designed to produce a good sine wave when idling. > The other is that a capacitor in the inverter has deteriorated. > >Any advice? It may be that Search mode is enabled on the inverter. If that is the case, its sensitivity can be adjusted, disabled, or your BIL can just turn on a light bulb when he wants to start the washer. Look in the Trace manual for Search mode --ron Posted by Ulysses on May 8, 2008, 11:12 am Please log in for more thread options > wrote: > > >My BIL has a windmill that charges batteries to power a Trace 4048 > >sine-wave inverter. He also has a Bosche washer. It worked fine on the > >inverter for several months. > > > >After that, the washer wouldn't come on unless something else was > >putting a load on the inverter. The washer works fine on grid power. > > > > From a thousand miles away, I imagine two possibilities. One is that > >this inverter was not designed to produce a good sine wave when idling. > > The other is that a capacitor in the inverter has deteriorated. > > > >Any advice? > > It may be that Search mode is enabled on the inverter. > > If that is the case, its sensitivity can be adjusted, disabled, or your BIL > can just turn on a light bulb when he wants to start the washer. > > Look in the Trace manual for Search mode > --ron That would be my guess too. Many people use a 13W CF bulb to get past the Search Mode, at least on OutBack inverters. Posted by E Z Peaces on May 10, 2008, 10:34 am Please log in for more thread options Ulysses wrote: >> wrote: >> >>> My BIL has a windmill that charges batteries to power a Trace 4048 >>> sine-wave inverter. He also has a Bosche washer. It worked fine on the >>> inverter for several months. >>> >>> After that, the washer wouldn't come on unless something else was >>> putting a load on the inverter. The washer works fine on grid power. >>> >>> From a thousand miles away, I imagine two possibilities. One is that >>> this inverter was not designed to produce a good sine wave when idling. >>> The other is that a capacitor in the inverter has deteriorated. >>> >>> Any advice? >> It may be that Search mode is enabled on the inverter. >> >> If that is the case, its sensitivity can be adjusted, disabled, or your > BIL >> can just turn on a light bulb when he wants to start the washer. >> >> Look in the Trace manual for Search mode >> --ron > > That would be my guess too. Many people use a 13W CF bulb to get past the > Search Mode, at least on OutBack inverters. > > Thanks, everybody, for the advice. My BIL says he turned off the search mode months ago, and he turns on a light before trying to start the washer. It sounds as if the inverter has changed. I imagine an electrolytic capacitor could cause the problem. At one time, they were commonly mounted in sockets for easy testing and replacement. I'll ask him if it's under warranty. Posted by Bruce in alaska on May 10, 2008, 6:54 pm Please log in for more thread options > Thanks, everybody, for the advice. My BIL says he turned off the search > mode months ago, and he turns on a light before trying to start the washer. > > It sounds as if the inverter has changed. I imagine an electrolytic > capacitor could cause the problem. At one time, they were commonly > mounted in sockets for easy testing and replacement. > > I'll ask him if it's under warranty. I can tell you from experience, that there are NO Socketed Capacitors in a Trace SW 40xx Inverter/Charger. Having owned, operated, and maintained a Trace SW4024 for the last 12 years, as well as generating ALL my own power for the last 30 years, you can take the above to the Bank. -- Bruce in alaska add <path> after <fast> to reply Similar Threads Posted I want to go with Trace GTI, but how is the feel for Outback GTI January 14, 2007, 5:01 pm Trace inverter going faulty October 27, 2008, 11:20 am