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are you happy with your wind turbine? tg 01-18-2007
Posted by Steve Spence on January 20, 2007, 10:55 pm
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 Todd wrote:

> Why are those alternatives even being considered if you're just looking
> for backup when the grid goes down?
>
> Todd Marshall
> Plantersville, TX
>

I have no grid. I have 280 watts of PV, 1000 watts of wind, and am
bringing a new 3kw veggiegen online (dumped the old 12kw detroit, it was
too big for us, and required a lot of maintenance).

--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust
http://www.green-trust.org

Posted by George Ghio on January 22, 2007, 1:56 am
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 Steve Spence wrote:
> Todd wrote:
>
>> Why are those alternatives even being considered if you're just looking
>> for backup when the grid goes down?
>>
>> Todd Marshall
>> Plantersville, TX
>>
>
> I have no grid. I have 280 watts of PV, 1000 watts of wind, and am
> bringing a new 3kw veggiegen online (dumped the old 12kw detroit, it was
> too big for us, and required a lot of maintenance).
>
Ah yes. You have 1000W of wind. Is this because the gen is rated to a
thousand watts and if the blades are turning the gen is running at its
rated power?

Why not be a bit more honest about your system. What does the wind gen
actually produce day to day.

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Posted by Steve Spence on January 22, 2007, 7:25 am
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George Ghio wrote:

> Ah yes. You have 1000W of wind. Is this because the gen is rated to a
> thousand watts and if the blades are turning the gen is running at its
> rated power?
>
> Why not be a bit more honest about your system. What does the wind gen
> actually produce day to day.
>

Let's suppose you were to actually sell a pv panel to some poor
unfortunate soul. You will quote the PV panel in watts as the
manufacturer rated it at full sun. Hopefully, you will also share with
said unfortunate his typical daily full sun expectations. Amazingly
enough, wind builders do the same, and the watt rating is at 25 mph
usually. That's where our wind gen produces 1000 watts as well. However,
wind and solar are variable, and the daily output ranges from 0 kWh to
8kWh typically. Just like our PV output ranges from 0 to 1kWh daily.
This is the reason backup generators are often necessary. The only one
being dishonest around here is you and your fanboy.

--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust
http://www.green-trust.org

Posted by wmbjk on January 22, 2007, 10:32 am
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:25:01 -0500, Steve Spence

>George Ghio wrote:
>
>> Ah yes. You have 1000W of wind. Is this because the gen is rated to a
>> thousand watts and if the blades are turning the gen is running at its
>> rated power?
>>
>> Why not be a bit more honest about your system. What does the wind gen
>> actually produce day to day.
>>
>
>Let's suppose you were to actually sell a pv panel to some poor
>unfortunate soul. You will quote the PV panel in watts as the
>manufacturer rated it at full sun. Hopefully, you will also share with
>said unfortunate his typical daily full sun expectations. Amazingly
>enough, wind builders do the same, and the watt rating is at 25 mph
>usually. That's where our wind gen produces 1000 watts as well. However,
>wind and solar are variable, and the daily output ranges from 0 kWh to
>8kWh typically. Just like our PV output ranges from 0 to 1kWh daily.

Try to imagine what it must be like for poor old George, who never got
to install any real turbines because he told all his "clients" <snorf>
that turbines aren't any good without 100' of obstacle clearance. Now
he reads about people here with hybrid setups getting way more energy
from their turbines than he ever gets from solar. As if that wasn't
enough, he had a ringside seat while you built a turbine from scratch.
And day in and day out, novices are talking about hardware that George
has never even laid eyes on. It has to be pretty demoralizing for him.

>This is the reason backup generators are often necessary. The only one
>being dishonest around here is you and your fanboy.

Don't kid yourself about Gymmy Bob the solar fraud being George's fan.
He's always directing his questions to those with experience, and it's
obvious he doesn't think any more of the Ghinius than the rest of us.
BTW, did you notice that Gymmy's claiming to have 5000W of PV now? Too
funny.

Wayne



Posted by George Ghio on January 23, 2007, 5:02 am
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Steve Spence wrote:
> George Ghio wrote:
>
>> Ah yes. You have 1000W of wind. Is this because the gen is rated to a
>> thousand watts and if the blades are turning the gen is running at its
>> rated power?
>>
>> Why not be a bit more honest about your system. What does the wind gen
>> actually produce day to day.
>>
>
> Let's suppose you were to actually sell a pv panel to some poor
> unfortunate soul. You will quote the PV panel in watts as the
> manufacturer rated it at full sun. Hopefully, you will also share with
> said unfortunate his typical daily full sun expectations. Amazingly
> enough, wind builders do the same, and the watt rating is at 25 mph
> usually. That's where our wind gen produces 1000 watts as well. However,
> wind and solar are variable, and the daily output ranges from 0 kWh to
> 8kWh typically. Just like our PV output ranges from 0 to 1kWh daily.
> This is the reason backup generators are often necessary. The only one
> being dishonest around here is you and your fanboy.
>

Thank you for clearing that up, so you actually have no idea at all.

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