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small energy henderson.dwight@gmail.com 01-16-2008
Posted by Arnold Walker on January 19, 2008, 2:06 am
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>I like the free (extra) energy concept. If he can make it work he will have
>made liars out of every law of science and scientist in history.
I believe he was talking about rankine losses many in previous threads
mentioned.
>
>> grandpa wrote:
>> ...
>>> I am saying using the air pressure to push a liquid out of a tank. The
>>> fluid pressure will be the same as the air pressure above the liquid in
>>> the tank.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> fluid turbines have more power per pressure release ratio. something to
>>> do with moving masss.
>>
>> I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Yes, water turbines
>> are smaller compared to air turbines that produce the same power because
>> water is a more dense fluid. This doesn't mean that water turbines are
>> more efficient than air turbines or that you'll gain anything by taking
>> air pressure, moving water with it and then moving a turbine with the
>> water.
>>
>> You should be able to do just as well with just an engine or turbine
>> run by compressed air and doing without the water entirely.
>>
>> Anthony
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Posted by Trygve Lillefosse on January 19, 2008, 10:32 pm
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I have not seen any reference to free energy here. He simply wants to
store energy with less loss than with air only.

The solution he talks about, sounds just like my basement water-tank.
Although my water tank is there so that the well pump only has to do
work for a short period of time.

The air pressure builds up to a set limit, and when I have used enough
water to lower the pressure to another set limit, the pump does
another run.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:24:38 -0500, "Solar Flare"

>I like the free (extra) energy concept. If he can make it work he will
>have made liars out of every law of science and scientist in history.
>
>> grandpa wrote:
>> ...
>>> I am saying using the air pressure to push a liquid out of a tank.
>>> The fluid pressure will be the same as the air pressure above the
>>> liquid in the tank.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> fluid turbines have more power per pressure release ratio.
>>> something to do with moving masss.
>>
>> I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Yes, water
>> turbines
>> are smaller compared to air turbines that produce the same power
>> because
>> water is a more dense fluid. This doesn't mean that water turbines
>> are
>> more efficient than air turbines or that you'll gain anything by
>> taking
>> air pressure, moving water with it and then moving a turbine with
>> the
>> water.
>>
>> You should be able to do just as well with just an engine or turbine
>> run by compressed air and doing without the water entirely.
>>
>> Anthony
>


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SEE YA !!!
Trygve Lillefosse
AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King

Posted by Solar Flare on January 17, 2008, 6:59 pm
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That is still air compression.

Show us fluid compression.

>
>> Simple effecient ways to convert compressed air to electricity.
>> Looking for ideas and info about existing technology.How much
>> electricity can be obtained from X volume @ Y psi in KWH?
>
>
>
> I'm looking for the same thing but with a twist.
>
> you can change the air pressure over to fluid pressure which will do
> work, a lot more work than air alone with little losses.
>
> If you have got an old well tank fill it three fourth with water and
> pressure it with air, now the water coming out the bottom of the
> tank is fluid pressure. I understand as soon as the water flow
> starts the pressure drops so just have a much bigger air tank than
> the water tank. To keep up the water flow you much have two or more
> of these tanks so the fluid pressure does'nt stop while the tank is
> being filled again (automatic electric valves)
>
> the alternator in a drum thing might work like this
>
>
> whats for supper grandpa?
>
>
>



Posted by henderson.dwight@gmail.com on January 17, 2008, 8:10 pm
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> That is still air compression.
>
> Show us fluid compression.
>
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>

> >> Simple effecient ways to convert compressed air to electricity.
> >> Looking for ideas and info about existing technology.How much
> >> electricity can be obtained from X volume @ Y psi in KWH?
>
> > I'm looking for the same thing but with a twist.
>
> > you can change the air pressure over to fluid pressure which will do
> > work, a lot more work than air alone with little losses.
>
> > If you have got an old well tank fill it three fourth with water and
> > pressure it with air, now the water coming out the bottom of the
> > tank is fluid pressure. I understand as soon as the water flow
> > starts the pressure drops so just have a much bigger air tank than
> > the water tank. To keep up the water flow you much have two or more
> > of these tanks so the fluid pressure does'nt stop while the tank is
> > being filled again (automatic electric valves)
>
> > the alternator in a drum thing might work like this
>
> > whats for supper grandpa?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I was told that liquids do not compress, gases do. Non compressability
makes hydraulics possible.

Posted by Solar Flare on January 17, 2008, 9:46 pm
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Bingo!


I was told that liquids do not compress, gases do. Non compressability
makes hydraulics possible.



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