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Prius vs. Hummer Jean B. 03-21-2007
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Posted by Jean B. on March 21, 2007, 9:03 am
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Some folks like to chide me (and others) about the Prius. One
posted a link to an editorial piece, which has the header
"Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage". See:

http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188

I'm sure some of the folks here with more technically-oriented
minds would have some good counterarguments?
--
Jean B.

Posted by mrv@kluge.net on March 21, 2007, 12:04 pm
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> Some folks like to chide me (and others) about the Prius. One
> posted a link to an editorial piece, which has the header
> "Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage". See:
>
> http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188
>
> I'm sure some of the folks here with more technically-oriented
> minds would have some good counterarguments?
> --
> Jean B.

It's been refuted on most of the main Prius discussion groups since it
came out a while ago. The most recent public thread is here:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/message/100720

(the "lifetime" of each vehicle is vastly out of proportion to make
the hummer look better, the story uses very old information on a
Canadian nickel mine that has been working hard to clean itself up
(and is currently much cleaner than the story asserts), the story came
from a source known to do reports favorable to whomever paid for the
report, etc.)


Posted by Jean B. on March 21, 2007, 12:50 pm
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mrv@kluge.net wrote:
>> Some folks like to chide me (and others) about the Prius. One
>> posted a link to an editorial piece, which has the header
>> "Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage". See:
>>
>> http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188
>>
>> I'm sure some of the folks here with more technically-oriented
>> minds would have some good counterarguments?
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> It's been refuted on most of the main Prius discussion groups since it
> came out a while ago. The most recent public thread is here:
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/message/100720
>
> (the "lifetime" of each vehicle is vastly out of proportion to make
> the hummer look better, the story uses very old information on a
> Canadian nickel mine that has been working hard to clean itself up
> (and is currently much cleaner than the story asserts), the story came
> from a source known to do reports favorable to whomever paid for the
> report, etc.)
>

Thanks, I'll go take a look. I did wonder about that 100,000
mile lifetime they assigned to the Prius.

--
Jean B.

If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in
the solvent.

Posted by bob on March 21, 2007, 7:00 pm
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> mrv@kluge.net wrote:
>>> Some folks like to chide me (and others) about the Prius. One
>>> posted a link to an editorial piece, which has the header
>>> "Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage". See:
>>>
>>> http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188
>>>
>>> I'm sure some of the folks here with more technically-oriented
>>> minds would have some good counterarguments?
>>> --
>>> Jean B.
>>
>> It's been refuted on most of the main Prius discussion groups since it
>> came out a while ago. The most recent public thread is here:
>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/message/100720
>>
>> (the "lifetime" of each vehicle is vastly out of proportion to make
>> the hummer look better, the story uses very old information on a
>> Canadian nickel mine that has been working hard to clean itself up
>> (and is currently much cleaner than the story asserts), the story came
>> from a source known to do reports favorable to whomever paid for the
>> report, etc.)
>>
>
> Thanks, I'll go take a look. I did wonder about that 100,000 mile
> lifetime they assigned to the Prius.

why would any GM product outlive a toyota? that's not the norm for sure..if
they're assuming you throw the prius away after the batteries go, that's
just bad logic.

bob



Posted by Ashton Crusher on March 22, 2007, 2:35 am
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>
>> mrv@kluge.net wrote:
>>>> Some folks like to chide me (and others) about the Prius. One
>>>> posted a link to an editorial piece, which has the header
>>>> "Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage". See:
>>>>
>>>> http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure some of the folks here with more technically-oriented
>>>> minds would have some good counterarguments?
>>>> --
>>>> Jean B.
>>>
>>> It's been refuted on most of the main Prius discussion groups since it
>>> came out a while ago. The most recent public thread is here:
>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/message/100720
>>>
>>> (the "lifetime" of each vehicle is vastly out of proportion to make
>>> the hummer look better, the story uses very old information on a
>>> Canadian nickel mine that has been working hard to clean itself up
>>> (and is currently much cleaner than the story asserts), the story came
>>> from a source known to do reports favorable to whomever paid for the
>>> report, etc.)
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, I'll go take a look. I did wonder about that 100,000 mile
>> lifetime they assigned to the Prius.
>
>why would any GM product outlive a toyota? that's not the norm for sure..if
>they're assuming you throw the prius away after the batteries go, that's
>just bad logic.
>
>bob
>

Why wouldn't it? Or a ford product? How many Chevies and Fords have
served one career as a police car and a second as a taxi? I've never
seen a Toyota do so.

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