Re: Figuring Out How Much a Hybrid, Diesel, or Small Car Will Save Per Year

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Re: Figuring Out How Much a Hybrid, Diesel, or Small Car Will Save Per Year Mike hunt 02-19-2008
Posted by Mike hunt on February 19, 2008, 10:10 am
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The irony is that extras $5,000 one pays to drive home a hybrid will buy ALL
of the fuel to operate a conventionally powered car, for the three to four
years the the average new car buyer keeps a vehicle LOL





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>> Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of hybrids
>> being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price on
>> that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.
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> Ever wonder what the extra $5000 or so hybrids cost is for?
> Largely energy.
> To properly energy cost factor a car or anything else you must include all
> inception to salvage.



Posted by edspyhill01@yahoo.com on February 19, 2008, 3:37 pm
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> The irony is that extras $5,000 one pays to drive home a hybrid will buy A=
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> of the fuel to operate a conventionally powered car, for the three to four=

> years the the average new car buyer keeps a vehicle =A0LOL
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> >> Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of hybrids
> >> being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price on
> >> that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.
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> > Ever wonder what the extra $5000 or so hybrids cost is for?
> > Largely energy.
> > To properly energy cost factor a car or anything else you must include a=
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What if you are like me and keep a car for 10 - 11 years? Also, don't
we save on oil changes, etc? I'm waiting for a Honda Fit Hybrid. I
do like the Toyota Matrix but prefer the Fit. The Fit may be getting
a bigger engine for 2009.

Ed S.

Posted by Mike hunt on February 19, 2008, 6:40 pm
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If one keeps a hybrid for ten years it will not likely be worth much. You
can use it for a paper weight. The $5,000 cost to replace the batteries
will be greater than its value at that time



> The irony is that extras $5,000 one pays to drive home a hybrid will buy
> ALL
> of the fuel to operate a conventionally powered car, for the three to four
> years the the average new car buyer keeps a vehicle LOL
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> >> Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of hybrids
> >> being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price on
> >> that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.
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> > Ever wonder what the extra $5000 or so hybrids cost is for?
> > Largely energy.
> > To properly energy cost factor a car or anything else you must include
> > all
> > inception to salvage.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

What if you are like me and keep a car for 10 - 11 years? Also, don't
we save on oil changes, etc? I'm waiting for a Honda Fit Hybrid. I
do like the Toyota Matrix but prefer the Fit. The Fit may be getting
a bigger engine for 2009.

Ed S.



Posted by Jeff on February 19, 2008, 6:45 pm
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Mike hunt wrote:
> If one keeps a hybrid for ten years it will not likely be worth much. You
> can use it for a paper weight. The $5,000 cost to replace the batteries
> will be greater than its value at that time
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>> The irony is that extras $5,000 one pays to drive home a hybrid will buy
>> ALL
>> of the fuel to operate a conventionally powered car, for the three to four
>> years the the average new car buyer keeps a vehicle LOL
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>>>> Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of hybrids
>>>> being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price on
>>>> that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.
>>> Ever wonder what the extra $5000 or so hybrids cost is for?
>>> Largely energy.
>>> To properly energy cost factor a car or anything else you must include
>>> all
>>> inception to salvage.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
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> What if you are like me and keep a car for 10 - 11 years? Also, don't
> we save on oil changes, etc? I'm waiting for a Honda Fit Hybrid. I
> do like the Toyota Matrix but prefer the Fit. The Fit may be getting
> a bigger engine for 2009.
>
> Ed S.

Mike's right. The car might be worth a few thousand dollars.

But, with the rising cost of fuel ($100 per barrel close today), you
might save even more than you thought.

Jeff

Posted by Bob & Holly Wilson on February 20, 2008, 8:44 pm
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> If one keeps a hybrid for ten years it will not likely be worth much. You
> can use it for a paper weight. The $5,000 cost to replace the batteries
> will be greater than its value at that time

Except that isn't happening. The Dept of Energy fleet studies ran over
160,000 miles without a battery change. The highest known milage Prius
was totalled in an accident with 325,000 miles and the original battery.
Then you you check Ebay, you find used traction batteries for $1,000 or
less.

We're finding the Prius are lost in accidents faster than the batteries
are failing. But it turns out, it is possible to rejuvenate the
batteries for about $2 in parts and a little charger time:

http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/pri_batt_300.jpg

Bob Wilson


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