Posted by amdx on January 21, 2012, 2:27 pm
Christopher Calder, who made a really significant suggestion. He wrote:
“Could you produce a simple E-Cat space heater that anyone could plug
into a wall? Most current consumer electric space heaters are limited to
1,500 watts, which is claimed to be enough to heat 1,000 square feet (93
square meters). Such a device would allow even very low income apartment
dwellers to immediately benefit from LENR technology. You could not
possibly manufacture enough portable heaters to keep up with worldwide
demand. Competition is only a problem if you run out of customers. The
E-Cat shortage will be the big problem making headlines.”
Andrea Rossi is pleased with the suggestion. It is very simple yet
feasible and marketable. Rossi responded by saying: “Do you know? Yours
is a very good idea. We got to study it.”
http://andrearossiecat.com/andrea-rossi/1kw-andrea-rossi-e-cat-heater-for-50
Mikek
Posted by Morris Dovey on January 21, 2012, 9:37 pm
On 1/21/12 1:27 PM, amdx wrote:
> Christopher Calder, who made a really significant suggestion. He wrote:
> “Could you produce a simple E-Cat space heater that anyone could plug
> into a wall? Most current consumer electric space heaters are limited to
> 1,500 watts, which is claimed to be enough to heat 1,000 square feet (93
> square meters). Such a device would allow even very low income apartment
> dwellers to immediately benefit from LENR technology. You could not
> possibly manufacture enough portable heaters to keep up with worldwide
> demand. Competition is only a problem if you run out of customers. The
> E-Cat shortage will be the big problem making headlines.”
> Andrea Rossi is pleased with the suggestion. It is very simple yet
> feasible and marketable. Rossi responded by saying: “Do you know? Yours
> is a very good idea. We got to study it.”
Mikek, have you ever tried to heat a cold space with a 1.5kW heater? I
have a pair of ($35) 1.5kW electric heaters in my 800 ft^2 workshop and
they aren't able to even take the edge off the cold...
At $50 a pop, a 1kW heater might be a cheap nuke - but I don't think
it's a good buy as a heater, and I'm pretty sure Rossi knows it.
My biggest concern with such a heater (assuming it could be made to work
at all) would be safety. Rossi has made statements that LENR
consumer-grade appliances would be safe because, in a runaway scenario,
the nickel powder would melt and the reaction would come to a halt
(because of the reduction in surface area of the Ni/H interface).
That it would come to a halt seems reasonable - but a quick Google
search on 'nickel melting point' will reveal that can't happen until the
reactor reaches a temperature above 2651°F/1453°C. Yikes!
Cue discussion of fail safe designs... ;-)
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Posted by amdx on January 21, 2012, 10:16 pm
On 1/21/2012 8:37 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:
> On 1/21/12 1:27 PM, amdx wrote:
>> Christopher Calder, who made a really significant suggestion. He wrote:
>>
>> “Could you produce a simple E-Cat space heater that anyone could plug
>> into a wall? Most current consumer electric space heaters are limited to
>> 1,500 watts, which is claimed to be enough to heat 1,000 square feet (93
>> square meters). Such a device would allow even very low income apartment
>> dwellers to immediately benefit from LENR technology. You could not
>> possibly manufacture enough portable heaters to keep up with worldwide
>> demand. Competition is only a problem if you run out of customers. The
>> E-Cat shortage will be the big problem making headlines.”
>>
>> Andrea Rossi is pleased with the suggestion. It is very simple yet
>> feasible and marketable. Rossi responded by saying: “Do you know? Yours
>> is a very good idea. We got to study it.”
> Mikek, have you ever tried to heat a cold space with a 1.5kW heater? I
> have a pair of ($35) 1.5kW electric heaters in my 800 ft^2 workshop and
> they aren't able to even take the edge off the cold...
> At $50 a pop, a 1kW heater might be a cheap nuke - but I don't think
> it's a good buy as a heater, and I'm pretty sure Rossi knows it.
> My biggest concern with such a heater (assuming it could be made to work
> at all) would be safety. Rossi has made statements that LENR
> consumer-grade appliances would be safe because, in a runaway scenario,
> the nickel powder would melt and the reaction would come to a halt
> (because of the reduction in surface area of the Ni/H interface).
> That it would come to a halt seems reasonable - but a quick Google
> search on 'nickel melting point' will reveal that can't happen until the
> reactor reaches a temperature above 2651°F/1453°C. Yikes!
> Cue discussion of fail safe designs... ;-)
Hi Morris,
800 sq ft is half the size of my house, the space heaters are
for a single 100 to 150 sq ft room.
There are plenty of 1000 to 1200 watt heaters on the market,
I think I have 4.
I think the safety release is the melting point of the lead shield.
But ya, let's see one working model on the market... Please!
Mikek
Posted by Rick on January 22, 2012, 8:02 am
> Christopher Calder, who made a really significant suggestion. He wrote:
> “Could you produce a simple E-Cat space heater that anyone could plug into
> a wall? Most current consumer electric space heaters are limited to 1,500
> watts,
3 kW surely? I use a 3 kW fan heater in my den along with a 3 kW high speed
electric kettle when I fancy a brew up.
Posted by amdx on January 22, 2012, 8:54 am
On 1/22/2012 7:02 AM, Rick wrote:
>> Christopher Calder, who made a really significant suggestion. He wrote:
>>
>> “Could you produce a simple E-Cat space heater that anyone could plug
>> into a wall? Most current consumer electric space heaters are limited
>> to 1,500 watts,
>>
> 3 kW surely? I use a 3 kW fan heater in my den along with a 3 kW high
> speed electric kettle when I fancy a brew up.
Where you at?
In the states 120 Volts x 20 amps is 2.4kW maximum.
Mikek
> “Could you produce a simple E-Cat space heater that anyone could plug
> into a wall? Most current consumer electric space heaters are limited to
> 1,500 watts, which is claimed to be enough to heat 1,000 square feet (93
> square meters). Such a device would allow even very low income apartment
> dwellers to immediately benefit from LENR technology. You could not
> possibly manufacture enough portable heaters to keep up with worldwide
> demand. Competition is only a problem if you run out of customers. The
> E-Cat shortage will be the big problem making headlines.”
> Andrea Rossi is pleased with the suggestion. It is very simple yet
> feasible and marketable. Rossi responded by saying: “Do you know? Yours
> is a very good idea. We got to study it.”