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Posted by amdx on January 23, 2015, 1:52 am


Posted by amdx on January 23, 2015, 1:54 am
On 1/22/2015 7:52 PM, amdx wrote:

  Gee, I didn't even get to this Better part.


Posted by mike on January 23, 2015, 4:01 am
 On 1/22/2015 5:54 PM, amdx wrote:

Could someone explain the purpose of the heater??

Start with perfect insulation.
Turn on the heater to raise the temperature to that
necessary for the reaction.
Turn off the heater.
The temperature should continue to rise until something

Now, poke a hole in the insulation and feed a water pipe thru it.
Use a simple feedback control system to throttle the water feed
to maintain whatever operating temperature you choose.  You can even
do it manually with enough precision for a go/no go test.

How could that NOT be self-sustaining if it's capable of producing
excess energy?????

The "perfect insulation" is just a concept to define the thought
experiment.  Given the large amount of excess energy, one should be
able to achieve adequate insulation quite simply.  The accuracy is
irrelevant.  Self-sustainability is the proof.
If you're a purist, measure the temperature gradient across the
insulation and apply a heater on the outside of the insulation
with a simple feedback control system to force the gradient to zero.
You don't have to measure stray heat loss, because there won't be any.

This is not rocket science.  It's engineering 101.  All the magic is
in the reaction medium.  Proving, without a doubt, that it works should  

Failure to meet simple, obvious, experimental criteria renders the
whole thing "suspect".  You may have a stronger word...

Posted by amdx on January 23, 2015, 4:22 am
 On 1/22/2015 10:01 PM, mike wrote:

    I have ask the same question.
They do report it will provide excess heat for a period
(how long is a period) and then they need to turn the heat on again.
I does seem to make sense, but all I have seen, they all need to cycle
the heat.
   Another concern of some, is the measurement of the AC power. Why not  
just use DC and not worry about phase or harmonics.

Ya, I've lost confidence after 3 years of following the E-cat.
I'm still hopeful it is real and becomes a household product
or every car has one. Back to steam power! :-)

Posted by Morris Dovey on January 23, 2015, 7:33 am
 On 1/22/15 10:22 PM, amdx wrote:

There appear to be three parameters that govern ignition/operation:

[1] Temperature of H₂ and Ni
[2] H₂ pressure
[3] Ni surface area

It also appears that there may be a curve shaped at least somewhat like  
k = P * T that describes a locus of (P,T) ignition points.

I looked for information about reaction chamber H₂ pressure, but that  
was not reported.

Morris Dovey

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