Posted by Richardson on July 6, 2009, 3:08 am
>>Here is why it's bad to use a PMA (permanent magnet) motor for your Wind
>>Power:
> It's a bit difficult to take seriously (not to mention read) the
> information of someone claiming to be an "Authority" on wind, that
> doesn't seem to know the difference between a "motor" which uses
> electricity to create motion and an "alternator" (as in permanent
> magnet alternator PMA) which uses motion to create electricity.
>>1) It would require so much strong wind to turn the motor, most of them
>>output 300watt - 1000watt at voltage not useful to charge your standard
>>battery. PMA motors are weak, so many times weaker than NON-PMA motors.
>>I already tested theirs. So be sure you test their motor with load if
>>you got one, because they use capacitor to mislead the true output.
>>theirs
>>is a hyper output!.
> Sense you've stated that you've "already tested theirs" and I can
> presume that you must have tested yours for comparison data, I'd like
> to see the test data for BOTH "theirs" (PMA) and your (excited field)
> alternators. Please include anemometer data, tower height, rotor size,
> number of blades, along with gearing ratio and field excitement
> losses.
>>2) PMA motor doesn't have any flexibility to adapt to wind power, it's
>>fixed. Therefore you are a loser if you bought one, its torque cannot be
>>adjusted to adapt to wind's power.
> This is what your data needs to prove.
>>3) The PMA makers are usually jalous poeple, they're afraid you will
>>invade
>>their market, they would try to eliminate your idea if you have something
>>better.
> Generally businesses just adopt "better" ideas and sell them to their
> established markets.
>>4) THE PMA-MOTOR USERS/MAKERS called Adjustable Torque motors as junk,
>>BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T TRIED IT, and they don't know anything about it.
> I think a little closer attention to what's been going on in the field
> of wind-turbines would helpful here.
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Why it makes sense to use an Alternator with Automagnet/Autofield
>>controller?
>>
>>1) It can adjust itself to any wind speed, any wind power.
>>
>>2) Generator outputs 4-10 times more power, real power, not hyper power
>>like PMA motors.
> I hope when you post your data verifying these claims, you'll sort out
> the use of the terms motor, alternator, and generator their NOT
> interchangeable making there claims very hard to follow.
> Curbie
Don't be picky Dumbass, every body on eBay speak the same language only you
the Redhead speak your own picky language.
I work with real data, and real stuff, you work with imagination. That's
the difference don't you know dumbass?
Posted by Curbie on July 6, 2009, 6:44 am
>Let me teach you something, Motor and Generator use Permanent magnet are
>the same. That's what they use blocking diode to control the current flow.
>Don't be picky, learn the core of science and stop fooling around with the
>two dead animals in this group or you will be infected like them.
I take it this means you're not backup your claims with data? Why
doesn't surprise me?
"learn the core of science"
Definition of a Motor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor
Definition of a Generator:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_generator
I've been waiting to learn something from you, but when you won't
provide the test data for "tests" you claim you ran, don't know the
difference between a motor & a generator, and insult everyone who does
accept your claims on your word, there is nothing to learn.
Why don't you teach me something post just the test data you claimed
to have run for just your motor/alternator/generator you only need
include average yearly windspeed, tower height, rotor size, number of
blades, along with gearing ratio and field excitement losses for your
motor/alternator/generator.
Another claim you make is that you work with real data, and real
stuff, you must know these things as a minimum for any test, or are
you trying to cover lies with insults.
Post or pretend.
Curbie
Posted by richardson on July 13, 2009, 1:55 pm
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>>Power:
> It's a bit difficult to take seriously (not to mention read) the
> information of someone claiming to be an "Authority" on wind, that
> doesn't seem to know the difference between a "motor" which uses
> electricity to create motion and an "alternator" (as in permanent
> magnet alternator PMA) which uses motion to create electricity.
>>1) It would require so much strong wind to turn the motor, most of them
>>output 300watt - 1000watt at voltage not useful to charge your standard
>>battery. PMA motors are weak, so many times weaker than NON-PMA motors.
>>I already tested theirs. So be sure you test their motor with load if
>>you got one, because they use capacitor to mislead the true output.
>>theirs
>>is a hyper output!.
> Sense you've stated that you've "already tested theirs" and I can
> presume that you must have tested yours for comparison data, I'd like
> to see the test data for BOTH "theirs" (PMA) and your (excited field)
> alternators. Please include anemometer data, tower height, rotor size,
> number of blades, along with gearing ratio and field excitement
> losses.
>>2) PMA motor doesn't have any flexibility to adapt to wind power, it's
>>fixed. Therefore you are a loser if you bought one, its torque cannot be
>>adjusted to adapt to wind's power.
> This is what your data needs to prove.
>>3) The PMA makers are usually jalous poeple, they're afraid you will
>>invade
>>their market, they would try to eliminate your idea if you have something
>>better.
> Generally businesses just adopt "better" ideas and sell them to their
> established markets.
>>4) THE PMA-MOTOR USERS/MAKERS called Adjustable Torque motors as junk,
>>BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T TRIED IT, and they don't know anything about it.
> I think a little closer attention to what's been going on in the field
> of wind-turbines would helpful here.
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Why it makes sense to use an Alternator with Automagnet/Autofield
>>controller?
>>
>>1) It can adjust itself to any wind speed, any wind power.
>>
>>2) Generator outputs 4-10 times more power, real power, not hyper power
>>like PMA motors.
> I hope when you post your data verifying these claims, you'll sort out
> the use of the terms motor, alternator, and generator their NOT
> interchangeable making there claims very hard to follow.
> Curbie