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Posted by Baron on January 8, 2010, 7:46 pm
 


nospam@nevis.com Inscribed thus:


I concur. ISP's have allowed Google to effectively pass off Usenet as
their own by killing access via them.  The net result is fewer people
being exposed to News Servers and knowing that HTML is not the norm.

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Best Regards:
                     Baron.

Posted by Josepi on January 13, 2010, 5:26 pm
 


HTML is becoming the norm. You will  need a properly written more advanced
Usenet message browser to see them properly.

Get one that you can see the threading as well the name of the poster so you
can get rid of your signature line taking space telling everybody who you
are every post.


I concur. ISP's have allowed Google to effectively pass off Usenet as
their own by killing access via them.  The net result is fewer people
being exposed to News Servers and knowing that HTML is not the norm.

--


nospam@nevis.com Inscribed thus:


I concur. ISP's have allowed Google to effectively pass off Usenet as
their own by killing access via them.  The net result is fewer people
being exposed to News Servers and knowing that HTML is not the norm.

--
Best Regards:
                     Baron.



Posted by PowerSerge on January 8, 2010, 4:50 am
 

You are right. I use Agent, a well recognized newsreader or
"browser", as you may call it and the cursor is always at the
top, for a response. I have used MOE and it lacks many advanced
features but makes up for it in plain simplicity.

Most of the more advanced newsreaders are not necessary for text
browsing but really shine when it comes to binary files, Yenc
and downloading and  posting copyrighted materials.

So it may be safe to say people using MOE do not steal
copyrighted material. <snorf>

PS


wrote:

Unbelievable. I didn't have to mouse scroll down and then back
up again to
see if I missed anything...

and look! You header, and JF's is with your text and the one
before it are
all in order.

I have seen many articles on top posting and it seems it will be
the way of
the future once people get more modern Usenet browsers that can
actually not
mix up the posting. Funny how these obstinates can use top
posting everyday
for business email and then totally switch when posting in a
forum like
Usenet.

I have used a few different newsgroup browsers and they all
position the
curser at the top. There are always special keystrokes to get to
the bottom
but then you have to backtrack to find the top of the entry.
Even the
signatures lines are handled by deleting them. So many groups
use this
method now with the exception of a few old farts from the
outdated IRC...LOL

This should have them cringing in their boots. I used the words
"browser",
"forum" and a few others that the "everbody has to be like me"
trolls like
to cling onto...LOL

Have a good one.



Go to the medical boards sometime.
Arthritis, chronic pain, cancer, etc.
See if your >99% observation applies.
When economy of movement, as well
as a small group that knows what has
come before, top posting is most practical.

Hmm, now that I think of it, there is an
enormous number of specific-interest
groups, more being formed all the time.
That would suggest top posting being
more appropriate, along with ignoring
self-appointed net-cops that want to try
to force a practice they know to be
archaic and clumsy.

On Dec 23 2009, 12:56 pm, John Fields
wrote:
My position and that of probably >>99% of USENET is that bottom
and
in-line posting is much more efficacious and considerate to
readers than
top posting, so your disagreeing with that position is
tantamount to
your declaring "Your format is wrong", which hoists you on your
own
petard and brands _you_ as the lazy troll losing the argument.


Posted by Josepi on January 8, 2010, 5:09 am
 

Thanx. It works for **any** Usenet browser I have ever heard of and always
has. I prefer a brwoser as I like to be able to post also. Seems "readers"
could not post or they would be called "browsers"

Now some of the bassackwards ones are telling me their "newsreader" cannot
see headers....LOL! What will they think of next?



You are right. I use Agent, a well recognized newsreader or
"browser", as you may call it and the cursor is always at the
top, for a response. I have used MOE and it lacks many advanced
features but makes up for it in plain simplicity.

Most of the more advanced newsreaders are not necessary for text
browsing but really shine when it comes to binary files, Yenc
and downloading and  posting copyrighted materials.

So it may be safe to say people using MOE do not steal
copyrighted material. <snorf>

PS


wrote:

Unbelievable. I didn't have to mouse scroll down and then back
up again to see if I missed anything...

 and look! Your header, and JF's is with your text and the one
before it are all in order.

I have seen many articles on top posting and it seems it will be
the way of the future once people get more modern Usenet browsers that can
actually not mix up the posting. Funny how these obstinates can use top
posting everyday for business email and then totally switch when posting in
a
forum like Usenet.

I have used a few different newsgroup browsers and they all
position the
curser at the top. There are always special keystrokes to get to
the bottom
but then you have to backtrack to find the top of the entry.
Even the signatures lines are handled by deleting them. So many groups
use this method now with the exception of a few old farts from the
outdated IRC...LOL

This should have them cringing in their boots. I used the words
"browser", "forum" and a few others that the "everbody has to be like me"
trolls like to cling onto...LOL

Have a good one.



Go to the medical boards sometime.
Arthritis, chronic pain, cancer, etc.
See if your >99% observation applies.
When economy of movement, as well
as a small group that knows what has
come before, top posting is most practical.

Hmm, now that I think of it, there is an
enormous number of specific-interest
groups, more being formed all the time.
That would suggest top posting being
more appropriate, along with ignoring
self-appointed net-cops that want to try
to force a practice they know to be
archaic and clumsy.


On Dec 23 2009, 12:56 pm, John Fields
wrote:
My position and that of probably >>99% of USENET is that bottom and
in-line posting is much more efficacious and considerate to
readers than top posting, so your disagreeing with that position is
tantamount to your declaring "Your format is wrong", which hoists you on
your
own petard and brands _you_ as the lazy troll losing the argument.



Posted by Jasen Betts on January 8, 2010, 9:51 am
 


if you have to do that you are using the wrong newsreader, or using it
incorrectly.


no, they aren't visible at all.


there is no requirement to top post in email.


that way I can cursor down throught the message and delete the
unwanted parts and reply to the bits that need attention.



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