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Posted by John Fields on January 4, 2010, 11:15 pm
 


wrote:


Not _rules_, just manners and, as new as it is, tradition.

Have you ever wondered why a place setting at a polite table is set out
the way it is?

It's because of the way the tools are used during a meal, with the order
going from the outside in as the meal progresses.

Notice, particularly, how the sharp edge of the knife's blade is placed
so as to face its user's plate instead of toward the guest sitting next
to it.

A very gracious way of presenting a symbolically non-threatening
attitude to a neighbor, methinks, instead of the perpetual frown you
arrogantly hostile top-posters seem to confront everyone with.

JF

Posted by YD on January 5, 2010, 2:39 am
 


this immortal opus:


Usenet was going strong long before there were browsers. In fact, the
main means of communication at the time. Not counting IRC. It's
declining the last couple of years due to Google screwing it up by
making it available in browsers and the old-timers tiring of the mess.

Looking at the frontpage GooGoo make it look like usenet was their
invention and a sub-set of GooGoo groups. Nothing could be farther
from the truth.

- YD.
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Posted by Josepi on January 5, 2010, 5:19 am
 

Usenet has come a long way since we used to ftp the messages down. Browsers
were developed and threading became a reality and attaching messages to your
reply became unecessary, except for clarity of response.

Top posting has always been encouraged by all browsers in order to keep
headers with the their respective text and the latest posted information at
the position the post was opened, by your modern browser.  Some people just
can't get out of the eighties with their Usenet technology, despite all
their professed prowess with other technologies.


Usenet was going strong long before there were browsers. In fact, the
main means of communication at the time. Not counting IRC. It's
declining the last couple of years due to Google screwing it up by
making it available in browsers and the old-timers tiring of the mess.

Looking at the frontpage GooGoo make it look like usenet was their
invention and a sub-set of GooGoo groups. Nothing could be farther
from the truth.

- YD.
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this immortal opus:



Posted by Don Klipstein on January 5, 2010, 5:49 am
 


  I never used ftp for Usenet since I got involved in 1995.  This is the
first time I even heard of ftp being used for Usenet, and I have heard
differently how it usually worked.


  Threading was a reality in 1995 and before, with newsreader and
email/news software.


  Newsreader software worked that way in 1995 and before also (and still
does)!

  Meanwhile, Usenet regulars are accustomed to looking for responses
following what they are in response to.  Browsers do not discourage that
any more than newsreader software does.


  The customs of Usenet were established by people who are now old farts,
and the vast majority of those on Usenet support the old-fart customs,
because of how they are accustomed to time-efficiently reading Usenet
posts.

 - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

      (and Josepi fails ro add quotation symbols as usual)

<SNIP afterwards>

Posted by YD on January 6, 2010, 2:21 am
 

this immortal opus:


AFAIK ftp was never used for messaging, except possibly some BBS.
Threading newsreaders (with the original text attached) were a reality
long before any Windows boxes came on-line. Hell, there weren't any
Windows boxes at all at the time. Go read some history, will you? Do
you really think www is the end-all and be-all of the internet? If you
do, excellent! It means one less clueless weenie not getting into the
real stuff and mess it up.

- YD

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