Posted by Josepi on January 6, 2010, 2:03 am
Geeeezzzz. I guess you must be under 15 years old then.
Windows? WTF was that then?
this immortal opus:
AFAIK ftp was never used for messaging, except possibly some BBS.
Threading newsreaders (with the original text attached) were a reality
long before any Windows boxes came on-line. Hell, there weren't any
Windows boxes at all at the time. Go read some history, will you? Do
you really think www is the end-all and be-all of the internet? If you
do, excellent! It means one less clueless weenie not getting into the
real stuff and mess it up.
Remove HAT if replying by mail.
Posted by Fred Abse on January 6, 2010, 9:42 am
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:21:01 -0300, YD wrote:
Back in the day, UUCP ruled.
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
Posted by daestrom on January 7, 2010, 9:46 pm
ftp??? Boy, that came along much later. Usenet is an offshoot of old
'bulletin board' systems. Starting out on UN*X machines at
universities, it used UUCP to transfer batches of messages from machine
to machine. That was pre IP-protocol days.
Change that to 'news readers' and you'd be right. 'Browsers' were
developed for the WWW sometime later.
The simple proof of that is if you're reading in google groups or such,
you're actually reading a page of html text. The server at google has
taken the news-server messages and stripped and reformatted them into
html for serving out to a web browser.
When you reply to a message using google groups, google's server takes
the response from your 'post' message to the web server and puts its own
news header on it and sends it to various news servers around the world.
Now you're just making stuff up. The 'headers' are not normally put in
the text window but in a separate section not normally viewed by humans.
For example in my news reader, I don't see any 'headers' in the text
window. To view the headers I simply use a menu option.
Each news server that sends a message adds its own address onto the
header but that has nothing to do with 'top posting'.
Posted by Josepi on January 7, 2010, 11:06 pm
Was that when you were a ship's captain in the Navy, a nuclear Physicist or
a Hydro Operator?
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Posted by daestrom on January 8, 2010, 9:28 pm
Just because you are stuck in a dead end job and haven't finished
anything you started, doesn't mean everyone else is the same.
I was a chief petty officer serving on submarines, not a captain. You
obviously don't even know military protocol to make such a stupid gaff.
When I got out I put my nuclear power experience to work as a senior
reactor operator of a commercial power plant. But I have no idea where
you got the idea of hydro operator. Although I have been involved with
system operators that work with all types of power plants.
And yes, along the way I did a lot of work with computers from UNIX and
CPM/86 to Sun SPARC and Windows. My first personal computer was in
1979, long before the IBM PC (and no, it wasn't a trash-80, that was my
shipmate's). Bought it to teach myself something new. Learned to
program pretty well in FORTRAN, C, JAVA and assembler to name a few (I
can recognize LISP, CLIPS or PROLOG when I see them).
I'm sorry you have such a sheltered life, but you can only blame
yourself. Quite drinking beer in front of the TV with your hand down
your pants and make something of yourself.