Posted by Jasen Betts on December 25, 2009, 9:13 am
> Now you consider yourself "most".
> Learning to troll, are we?
> How arrogant of you to presume to speak for 'most others'.
> You certainly don't speak for me.
> daestrom
> Josepi wrote:
> Yup, top posting is the favouite troll of the unoriginal ones.
> I can read either but most bottom posted polls longer than one page are not
> read by me or most others.
it appears that you are talking to yourself.
Posted by Fred Abse on December 25, 2009, 5:55 pm
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:13:05 +0000, Jasen Betts wrote:
> it appears that you are talking to yourself.
Not just talking, I think ;-)
--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)
Posted by Jim Wilkins on December 8, 2009, 12:59 am
> Your comments about the winding was well atriculated,
> thank you. I'm in the process of making a winding jig. And
> probably using #30 wire.
> Just be sure to make at least one side of your jig movable
> (removable) or you will never get it off the jig.
> Depending on your jig, it's nice to lay several strips of tape, adhesive
> side up on the jig, so when your finished winding you can wrap the
> wires to stablize them before removing from jig. (string also works).
> Mike
You can wind a bobbinless, free-standing coil by hand by zig-zaging
the wire from side to side, each turn pressed against and held at the
ends by the previous one.
http://www.lakefish.net/images/product_photos/rope_11.jpg
It isn't as hard as it looks at first and you can hold it together
with tape flaps that you lift as you go around. Some of the filter
coils in old radios were wound this way, often several windings spaced
along a core tube. Double stick tape will hold the first turn in
place. At each end you jump the wire over the previous one so the new
wire is always on the same side.
It isn't the fastest way, but it requires nothing but fingers, the
wire and a core, such as cardboard wrapped around a dowel, that you
can pull out afterwards.
jsw
Posted by Michael B on December 8, 2009, 3:42 am
> You can wind a bobbinless, free-standing coil by hand by zig-zaging
> the wire from side to side, each turn pressed against and held at the
> ends by the previous one.http://www.lakefish.net/images/product_photos/rope_11.jpg
> It isn't as hard as it looks at first and you can hold it together
> with tape flaps that you lift as you go around. Some of the filter
> coils in old radios were wound this way, often several windings spaced
> along a core tube. Double stick tape will hold the first turn in
> place. At each end you jump the wire over the previous one so the new
> wire is always on the same side.
That is indeed tantalizing. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Posted by Josepi on December 21, 2009, 11:48 pm
Really cool! Except for one thing. Your photo sample is still wound on a
form and is not free standing, the same as you need to wind a coil.
Bobbinless, sure.
The zig-zag is not recommended for enamel insulated wire as it puts a lot of
mechanical stress on wire insulation crossing each other, the resultant is
bulky, not as flexible and cannot be formed into the laminations after
winding.
That is indeed tantalizing. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
You can wind a bobbinless, free-standing coil by hand by zig-zaging
the wire from side to side, each turn pressed against and held at the
ends by the previous
one.http://www.lakefish.net/images/product_photos/rope_11.jpg
It isn't as hard as it looks at first and you can hold it together
with tape flaps that you lift as you go around. Some of the filter
coils in old radios were wound this way, often several windings spaced
along a core tube. Double stick tape will hold the first turn in
place. At each end you jump the wire over the previous one so the new
wire is always on the same side.
> Learning to troll, are we?
> How arrogant of you to presume to speak for 'most others'.
> You certainly don't speak for me.
> daestrom
> Josepi wrote:
> Yup, top posting is the favouite troll of the unoriginal ones.
> I can read either but most bottom posted polls longer than one page are not
> read by me or most others.