Posted by zero on July 13, 2007, 10:19 pm
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:16:18 +1000, George Ghio
>zero wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:07:20 +1000, George Ghio
>>
>>
>>> Poor nickie, Hot water, like hot air will always rise.
>>
>> Clue: to cool his house, the op needs the -cold- water to "rise".
>>
>> You might look into thermo-siphon function to better understand
>> why you are being called an idiot.
>>
>> zero
>Let's see. To get cold water to rise it must be heated.
>So the op needs to heat the lake to make cold water to rise.
>Hmmm, that's a tricky one.
>Start with a manifold at the bottom of the roof and another manifold at the
ridge. Lots of smaller
>pipes connecting the two.
>The bottom manifold is connected to the lake. This is the cold leg of the
system.
>The top manifold is run into the lake as well. This is the hot leg of the
system.
>Flush with water to remove air from the system. Once primed hot water will rise.
>Care needs to be taken not to run the cold leg through the house at it could
affect the temperature
>inside.
>And before you start whining about it, this system is used at the local pool to
keep the childrens
>pool nice and warm for the little mites.
Ok, I'm not being original, but
you really seem to be an idiot. The op want's to -cool- his house,
not heat kiddie pools.
zero
Posted by George Ghio on July 14, 2007, 1:09 am
zero wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:16:18 +1000, George Ghio
>
>> zero wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:07:20 +1000, George Ghio
>>>
>>>
>>>> Poor nickie, Hot water, like hot air will always rise.
>>> Clue: to cool his house, the op needs the -cold- water to "rise".
>>>
>>> You might look into thermo-siphon function to better understand
>>> why you are being called an idiot.
>>>
>>> zero
>> Let's see. To get cold water to rise it must be heated.
>>
>> So the op needs to heat the lake to make cold water to rise.
>>
>> Hmmm, that's a tricky one.
>>
>> Start with a manifold at the bottom of the roof and another manifold at the
ridge. Lots of smaller
>> pipes connecting the two.
>>
>> The bottom manifold is connected to the lake. This is the cold leg of the
system.
>>
>> The top manifold is run into the lake as well. This is the hot leg of the
system.
>>
>> Flush with water to remove air from the system. Once primed hot water will
rise.
>>
>> Care needs to be taken not to run the cold leg through the house at it could
affect the temperature
>> inside.
>>
>> And before you start whining about it, this system is used at the local pool
to keep the childrens
>> pool nice and warm for the little mites.
>>
>
> Ok, I'm not being original, but
>
> you really seem to be an idiot. The op want's to -cool- his house,
> not heat kiddie pools.
>
> zero
>
No, but you are being truthful by using your IQ to post under.
One side is the hot leg and the other is the COLD leg. How hard is it to
understand. COLD!!! Get it?
He runs the cold side through the house. See COLD, through house!
Idiot.
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Posted by daestrom on July 16, 2007, 1:36 pm
> zero wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:07:20 +1000, George Ghio
>>
>>
>>> Poor nickie, Hot water, like hot air will always rise.
>>
>> Clue: to cool his house, the op needs the -cold- water to "rise".
>>
>> You might look into thermo-siphon function to better understand
>> why you are being called an idiot.
>>
>> zero
> Let's see. To get cold water to rise it must be heated.
> So the op needs to heat the lake to make cold water to rise.
> Hmmm, that's a tricky one.
> Start with a manifold at the bottom of the roof and another manifold at
> the ridge. Lots of smaller pipes connecting the two.
> The bottom manifold is connected to the lake. This is the cold leg of the
> system.
> The top manifold is run into the lake as well. This is the hot leg of the
> system.
> Flush with water to remove air from the system. Once primed hot water will
> rise.
> Care needs to be taken not to run the cold leg through the house at it
> could affect the temperature inside.
> And before you start whining about it, this system is used at the local
> pool to keep the childrens pool nice and warm for the little mites.
> Which is why nickie and runaway are idiots.
Too bad the OP wants to *cool* his house, not warm it.
Besides, once you've warmed the water in the small individual tubes between
the top and bottom manifold, how do you intend to get the water back to the
lake? If you say something like, "Let gravity drain it back..." then you
*really* haven't given it much thought.
daestrom
Posted by George Ghio on July 16, 2007, 7:47 pm
daestrom wrote:
>
>> zero wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:07:20 +1000, George Ghio
>>>
>>>
>>>> Poor nickie, Hot water, like hot air will always rise.
>>>
>>> Clue: to cool his house, the op needs the -cold- water to "rise".
>>>
>>> You might look into thermo-siphon function to better understand
>>> why you are being called an idiot.
>>>
>>> zero
>>
>> Let's see. To get cold water to rise it must be heated.
>>
>> So the op needs to heat the lake to make cold water to rise.
>>
>> Hmmm, that's a tricky one.
>>
>> Start with a manifold at the bottom of the roof and another manifold
>> at the ridge. Lots of smaller pipes connecting the two.
>>
>> The bottom manifold is connected to the lake. This is the cold leg of
>> the system.
>>
>> The top manifold is run into the lake as well. This is the hot leg of
>> the system.
>>
>> Flush with water to remove air from the system. Once primed hot water
>> will rise.
>>
>> Care needs to be taken not to run the cold leg through the house at it
>> could affect the temperature inside.
>>
>> And before you start whining about it, this system is used at the
>> local pool to keep the childrens pool nice and warm for the little mites.
>>
>> Which is why nickie and runaway are idiots.
>>
>
> Too bad the OP wants to *cool* his house, not warm it.
>
> Besides, once you've warmed the water in the small individual tubes
> between the top and bottom manifold, how do you intend to get the water
> back to the lake? If you say something like, "Let gravity drain it
> back..." then you *really* haven't given it much thought.
>
> daestrom
>
Unless you want to credit me with the first practical demonstration of
anti-gravity...
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Posted by CM on July 13, 2007, 10:29 pm
>> I live in a conventional suburban neighborhood, but on a recliamed
>> sand pit land. This forms a fairly large lake of about 20 acres and
>> 25' deep. My house - a conventional wood framed brick venier job,
>> backs up to the water. I live in Texas, and of course it is hot a
>> large part of the year. The interesting part is that the deep lake
>> has a very cold layer of water in the bottom. Not sure of the exact
>> temp but I can get a reading fairly easily. One guy dove to the
>> bottom in a wet suit & scuba gear and claimed it was very cold - in
>> the summer. Lets say mid 40's or 50 degrees.
>>
>> I had an idea of using the cold deep lake water to cool a fluid and
>> pump it up into the house, to the 3rd level mounting of all the
>> current evaporator, then through some sort of heat exchangers and back
>> down to the lake.
>>
>> My initial excitement was dampened by the difficulty of pumping water
>> from the lake would likely use about the same amount of energy as the
>> air conditioner itself.
>>
>> Any thoughts from the community?
> If there is a temp differential between the hot leg (from the house) and
> the cold leg (to the house) you might be able to get a thermo-siphon
> running.
Only if the house was somehow below the bottom of the lake!
Thermosiphons only move heat up/cold down.
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>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:07:20 +1000, George Ghio
>>
>>
>>> Poor nickie, Hot water, like hot air will always rise.
>>
>> Clue: to cool his house, the op needs the -cold- water to "rise".
>>
>> You might look into thermo-siphon function to better understand
>> why you are being called an idiot.
>>
>> zero
>Let's see. To get cold water to rise it must be heated.
>So the op needs to heat the lake to make cold water to rise.
>Hmmm, that's a tricky one.
>Start with a manifold at the bottom of the roof and another manifold at the