Posted by kelvin_cool_ohm on July 5, 2006, 12:18 am
I'm curious about the Chicago Electric motorless generators
including the PTO ones. I want to run one from a waterwheel.
Anyone?
TIA
Rick
Posted by Pete C. on July 5, 2006, 9:19 am
kelvin_cool_ohm wrote:
>
> I'm curious about the Chicago Electric motorless generators
> including the PTO ones. I want to run one from a waterwheel.
>
> Anyone?
>
> TIA
>
> Rick
How do you plan to gear the waterwheel up to drive the generator at 3600
RPM and govern it at that speed to stabilize the output frequency?
Likely easier to use truck alternators to generate DC, charge a battery
and feed an inverter.
Pete C.
Posted by You on July 5, 2006, 2:29 pm
> kelvin_cool_ohm wrote:
> >
> > I'm curious about the Chicago Electric motorless generators
> > including the PTO ones. I want to run one from a waterwheel.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Rick
>
> How do you plan to gear the waterwheel up to drive the generator at 3600
> RPM and govern it at that speed to stabilize the output frequency?
> Likely easier to use truck alternators to generate DC, charge a battery
> and feed an inverter.
>
> Pete C.
Simply that PTO dirven Generators have an input Shaft speed of 540 Rpm.
which is then geared up to the appropriate syncronus Rpm for the
generator design. Just about any FARMER knows that PTO shaft speeds
are 540 Rpm.......
Posted by Pete C. on July 5, 2006, 3:09 pm
You wrote:
>
>
> > kelvin_cool_ohm wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm curious about the Chicago Electric motorless generators
> > > including the PTO ones. I want to run one from a waterwheel.
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Rick
> >
> > How do you plan to gear the waterwheel up to drive the generator at 3600
> > RPM and govern it at that speed to stabilize the output frequency?
> > Likely easier to use truck alternators to generate DC, charge a battery
> > and feed an inverter.
> >
> > Pete C.
>
> Simply that PTO dirven Generators have an input Shaft speed of 540 Rpm.
> which is then geared up to the appropriate syncronus Rpm for the
> generator design. Just about any FARMER knows that PTO shaft speeds
> are 540 Rpm.......
I'm well aware of 540 / 1000 RPM PTO speeds, however I haven't seen many
waterwheels turning at 540 RPM, more like 30 RPM at most. A water
turbine might hit 540 RPM but would need to be pretty large to generate
enough torque for most any PTO generator.
Pete C.
Posted by FukUSpamer@fukspamer.com on July 5, 2006, 7:47 pm
Pete:
This 30 RPM has enough torque ?
I have a small stream running in my property and I am thinking to generate
some electric power outta it. Stream is not big but run year round. Fall is
probably 5-6 inches and depth is between 1-8 inches and width is at one
point around 7 ft and other point it is just 2 ft. I was thinking to built
a small dam kinda thing where stream height is 1-8 inches. Flow of water is
slow. I have no idea what RPM I will get and how much torque it will
generate. I have couple of PM DC motors sitting with different power output
....sounds like gotta try one by one.
> You wrote:
>>
>>
>> > kelvin_cool_ohm wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I'm curious about the Chicago Electric motorless generators
>> > > including the PTO ones. I want to run one from a waterwheel.
>> > >
>> > > Anyone?
>> > >
>> > > TIA
>> > >
>> > > Rick
>> >
>> > How do you plan to gear the waterwheel up to drive the generator at
>> > 3600
>> > RPM and govern it at that speed to stabilize the output frequency?
>> > Likely easier to use truck alternators to generate DC, charge a battery
>> > and feed an inverter.
>> >
>> > Pete C.
>>
>> Simply that PTO dirven Generators have an input Shaft speed of 540 Rpm.
>> which is then geared up to the appropriate syncronus Rpm for the
>> generator design. Just about any FARMER knows that PTO shaft speeds
>> are 540 Rpm.......
> I'm well aware of 540 / 1000 RPM PTO speeds, however I haven't seen many
> waterwheels turning at 540 RPM, more like 30 RPM at most. A water
> turbine might hit 540 RPM but would need to be pretty large to generate
> enough torque for most any PTO generator.
> Pete C.
> I'm curious about the Chicago Electric motorless generators
> including the PTO ones. I want to run one from a waterwheel.
>
> Anyone?
>
> TIA
>
> Rick