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Posted by Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's n on May 28, 2009, 1:13 am

A neighbor used to work at a junkyard where they had to use a campfire, for
up to three days at times, to get the crane to start because the owner was
too cheap to buy a block heater.(FWIW, yes, he was Jewish, but not a
"proper" one as the lost business obviously cost more than the $5 heater).
Finally a "crane strike" ensued and the heater was purchased. From the first
time the crane fired right up they never let the guy live it down.

Talk about being penny wise and pound foolish.

"Keep it simple. If it takes a genius to understand it, it will never work."
- Clarence Leonard "Kelly" Johnson

Posted by Steve Ackman on May 29, 2009, 7:09 pm
21:12:56 -0400, Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's newest fan!, lordgow@yahoo.com

  You're crazy!  With the price of corn these days,
it's cheaper to burn oil, not to mention wood pellets
or depending on locale, cherry pits.

Posted by Morris Dovey on May 29, 2009, 7:29 pm
 Steve Ackman wrote:

...and in most locales it's cheaper still to not burn anything at all. :)

Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Posted by Curbie on May 29, 2009, 10:35 pm
 Hi Morris,

Did that guy ever get back the testing results of a cold-side water
jacket for your Hydro-Dyne?

Do you have any thoughts on solar heated water collector designs?

I think I recall that you're a solar hot-air guy but, you're "In the
Biz" so...

I've been looking into fin and tube vs. Modified Trickle Down
collector designs for use with a drain-back system.


Posted by Morris Dovey on May 30, 2009, 1:13 am
 Curbie wrote:

No - but it's on /my/ list of things to try...

Of course - I've actually built one that I think was absolutely
first-class, and building air heaters has provided a wealth of
experience that's showed me how to substantially improve on the
original, but...

...I can only afford to handle a /very/ limited set of projects at a
time - and with two new fluidynes in the works, my personal energy
budget is about tapped out, too.

My strongest suggestion would be to maximize the use of off-the-shelf
materials but, beyond that, focus on performance rather than cost. It's
a lot better to have something that meets or exceeds your expectations
than it is to end up with something cheap that doesn't do the job.

Look beyond what's already been done. I think you can do better. :)

Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA

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