Posted by Michael B on March 9, 2010, 10:07 pm
Sorry. I checked, and the Fredonia Reactor has not been
mentioned in this newsgroup.
Details for a start at http://cleanenergy-energystocks.com/
> Just use the Fredonia Reactor. It should go online soon.
Posted by Neo on March 3, 2010, 8:05 pm
What's the efficiency difference between using an (emergency)
electric generator turbine running on NG and Bloom NG Fuel
Cell? What is the cost differential for units which generate the
same sustained power outputs?
> What is up with this? I haven't seen or heard anything about it
> except for this thread. Someone tells me they will power a house with
> a 6" cube and replace all electrical distrubution systems and I will
> be looking for the guys inthe white coats.
> I would think that news such as that would be all over the media.
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/browse_frm/thread/a060 ...
> "Did anyone else here see the 60 Minutes segment last night on Bloom
> Energy? They are a CA based start-up company that is supposed to
> have a revolutionary fuel cell technology that is simple and cost
> effective. They showed a cube that was maybe 6" on each side and
> said that it was sufficient to power a house. It runs off nat gas,
> methane, possibly other carbon based fuels. The goal of the company
> is to have one in each house, business, etc and eliminate the
> distribution grid."
> Continues with further details and claims that big companies, google
> included, are already using "big" units.
> Harry K
Posted by vaughn on March 3, 2010, 9:29 pm
>What's the efficiency difference between using an (emergency)
>electric generator turbine running on NG and Bloom NG Fuel
>Cell?
Home-sized turbines are very inefficient. Gas turbines just don't scale down
well. Virtually *anything* would be more efficient, .that's why they basically
don't exist
> What is the cost differential for units which generate the same sustained
> power outputs?
We can't know because the Bloom unit is still unobtanium.
Vaughn
Posted by You on March 4, 2010, 3:13 pm
In article
> What's the efficiency difference between using an (emergency)
> electric generator turbine running on NG and Bloom NG Fuel
> Cell? What is the cost differential for units which generate the
> same sustained power outputs?
Apparently the maintainance on the BloomBoxs is negligible in the short
Term, when compared with ANY mechanical Power Generation Systems, both
short and long Term. I would expect that the BloomBox efficiency is
likely somewhat better in Total BTU's IN to Total Power Generated OUT,
due to that any mechanical Power Generation System System is less than
40%, in total BTU Effecentcy. We are still waiting for Official Data on
these issues...
Posted by vaughn on March 4, 2010, 4:00 pm
> Apparently the maintainance on the BloomBoxs is negligible in the short
> Term,
Based on what?
>when compared with ANY mechanical Power Generation Systems, both
> short and long Term. I would expect that the BloomBox efficiency is
> likely somewhat better in Total BTU's IN to Total Power Generated OUT,
> due to that any mechanical Power Generation System System is less than
> 40%, in total BTU Effecentcy.
Most fuel cells have high efficiency compared to mechanical devices, but the
question here is the efficiency of the Bloom fuel cell plus its associated fuel
reformer.
> We are still waiting for Official Data on these issues...
Exactly
Vaughn