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Posted by sspence on November 1, 2009, 12:36 am
 



Theres a lot of mis-information on the net surrounding the output of
a wind turbine. A great many scam artists are over rating their
turbines to make it sound like you can get a lot more power than you
really will. Even commercial manufacturers tend to over rate their
turbines, by using wind speeds that are not commonly seen at John Q.
Publics homestead. We have put together an online calculator that
will help you sift the wheat from the chaff so to speak. Plug in your
numbers and see what you can expect from a given wind turbine at your
location.


http://www.green-trust.org/windpowercalc/

Posted by ghio on November 1, 2009, 1:15 am
 



Dont forget to get our DIY Homebuilt Wind Turbine Instructions! Only
$5 from the number one scam artist in renewable energy.


Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on November 1, 2009, 2:17 pm
 

wrote:


                            ATTENTION NEWBS

The Homebrew Wind Power book was written by the folks at this site
http://www.otherpower.com/ . They're genuine experts at DIY, and offer
all the *free* instructions that a scratchbuilder needs to build a
good turbine. Example: http://www.otherpower.com/turbineplans.shtml
They also offer ready-made parts and a book for those want to speed
the process.

On the other hand, George Ghio, who would have you believe that
there's something wrong with the offer, is a well-proven lying quack.
See here for dozens of examples
http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/tbfduwisdumb.htm . He tried to sell his
own $5 book on Usenet, but was ridiculed into ceasing the offer when
he refused to supply any independent reviews.

Contrast that with these reviews of Homebrew Wind Power, which I was
able to find in seconds:
http://www.wind-works.org/SmallTurbines/HomebrewWindPower-AReview.html
(by Paul Gipe, an acknowledged expert on the subject)
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Review:Homebrew_Wind_Power
http://frugallygreen.org/2009/08/homebrew-wind-power-a-hands-on-guide-to-harnessing-the-wind/

All that said, keep in mind that building a turbine is not a project
for the faint of heart. It's real work and you'll earn your savings.
Steve Spence has done it, ask him for the details. But the reward for
doing it yourself is priceless. You can read all you need to judge the
difficulty for *free*, by the same authors, or from their book. One
nice thing about the latter option - you'll be supporting some good
folks.  

Wayne

Posted by ghio on November 1, 2009, 8:21 pm
 

On Nov 2, 1:17am, wmbjkREM...@citlink.net wrote:

Was never asked for reviews

w-wind-power-a-hands-on-guide...

For ten years or more wayne has tried to shut me up.

Why? Because he put up a Look at what I did website. Well I had a
look at this site, then asked wayne what he had in fact done. You see,
there were some pretty fanciful claims as to the performance of the
system wayne had set up.

On this site wayne claimed up to 30kWhs production with the further
claim that he could use all of that in a day. Unfortunately there was
no data as to what the individual loads were. When questioned about
the lack of this information wayne started waffling on about how his
system was so advanced that no one but himself could understand the
design.  This is of course a load of nonsense as all PV systems are
made up of pretty much the same items, panels, regulator, batteries
and inverters.

These items are all tied together in a system. There is a formula
which is used to determine the relationship between these items and
the load the system is expected to service.

Now, because wayne has no understanding of how his system performs and
can't tell anyone what his loads are, what his system produces or what
it uses he has tried to discredit me by posting his little hate site
http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/tbfduwisdumb.htm .

I strongly recommend visiting this site, it really is a hoot. What
really makes it funny is that wayne thinks it hurts me in some way. I
suppose that one day he will wake up and realise that for all the
years he has been running this site I have directed people to it.
After all it's not often that one can see such rabid hatred displayed
in public.

Now he is set to try the same brand of blackmail on another person he
feels should kow tow to his wishes. You see, he just will not allow
anyone kick his favourite puppy, and of course that puppy's name is
steve.

Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on November 1, 2009, 10:35 pm
 

wrote:


http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/tbfduwisdumb.htm . He tried to sell his

Good job, dufus! Who could have predicted that you'd try to lie your
way out of reality, or that I'd post proof of it? You must be the
world's slowest learner. Here's one of several requests for you to
show an independent review
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy.homepower/msg/911fae357355444b .
As I recall, some years later you eventually posted a letter from an
alleged buyer, who referred to the thing as a "little book". You also
posted a TOC, which had nonsense like: chapter 1, energy audit...
chapter 2, *the* energy audit". And at some point you *claimed* to
have sold some <drum roll> 50 copies. Who could have predicted that it
would be such a smash hit?  <snorf> And finally, somebody from Oz who
claimed to own a copy, posted his advice that you should just give it
away to anyone who wanted it.

Back to real books for a moment - here is the ISBN for Homebrew Wind
Power: 978-0981920108. And here
http://www.wind-works.org/SmallTurbines/HomebrewWindPower-AReview.html
is a link to an independent review by a well-regarded expert on the
subject. Now, where are the similar links for your offering? It's been
what, six years? What's the holdup, other than the fact that everyone
knows that you wouldn't dare submit your crap to an expert for review.
But it's never too late to prove me wrong. Why not shoot a copy over
to Paul Gipe so that we can see how it compares? Let me guess, the
file transfer would be too expensive? Dog ate the hard drive? You
don't want to show up all the other authors? You're afraid that Paul
will plagiarize your work?  LOL

Wayne


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