Posted by daestrom on February 3, 2007, 11:07 am
>>
>>
>> EXT wrote:
>>
>>> For those pushing fluorescent light bulbs in their many versions, have
>>> you considered the down side for the use of these bulbs.
>>>
>>> 1. The resources and energy it takes to build a CF bulb, it has to
>>> exceed what is needed for a regular incandescent bulb.
>>>
>>> 2. The cost to buy all CF or other fluorescent bulbs, no matter how
>>> cheap you can buy them they are more expensive than incandescent bulbs.
>>>
>>> 3. Not all fixtures will accept a CF or other fluorescent bulb, this
>>> requires resources and money to buy replacement fixtures.
>>>
>>> 4. Despite the hyped long life of fluorescent bulbs, CF bulbs more often
>>> than not have a considerably short life.
>>>
>>> 5. Most CF and other fluorescent bulbs cannot be dimmed with regular
>>> dimmers, any circuit with electronic dimmer or other controls will have
>>> to be rewired to eliminate these problems.
>>
>> What a list of crap that has been beat to death previously in this group.
> Dan:
> One "piece of crap" that you cannot dispute: CF bulbs have difficulty, or
> even cannot, light up in cold weather, so avoid using them when the
> temperature plummets down close to zero degrees.
Oh, my neighbors and I use them in outdoor fixtures and they seem to work
well. Last night it was 17F and they worked. They take a bit longer to
come to full brightness, but the lantern fixture they are in seems to help
hold the heat in and they warm up in a few minutes. Last week it was even
colder. Now, they may not work in Alaska or the Yukon, but here in NY they
work well outdoors.
daestrom
Posted by Tony Wesley on February 3, 2007, 12:35 pm
wrote:
> Oh, my neighbors and I use them in outdoor fixtures and they seem to work
> well. Last night it was 17F and they worked.
I'd like to hear a report over the next 48 hours!
Posted by daestrom on February 4, 2007, 12:28 pm
> wrote:
>> Oh, my neighbors and I use them in outdoor fixtures and they seem to work
>> well. Last night it was 17F and they worked.
> I'd like to hear a report over the next 48 hours!
Well, it was six above this morning when my son went to work at 5:00 AM.
Wind-chill was -10F. He didn't notice any problem with them as he brushed
the snow off his car.
You want another update tomorrow?? Or do you see the point, they work
outdoors.
daestrom
Posted by Tony Wesley on February 4, 2007, 6:04 pm
wrote:
> > I'd like to hear a report over the next 48 hours!
> Well, it was six above this morning when my son went to work at 5:00 AM.
> Wind-chill was -10F. He didn't notice any problem with them as he brushed
> the snow off his car.
> You want another update tomorrow?? Or do you see the point, they work
> outdoors.
Fair enough.
I had some in my garage that wouldn't work in the cold of winter.
It's been a while, don't remember the brand.
Posted by harry k on February 4, 2007, 11:07 pm
> wrote:
> > > I'd like to hear a report over the next 48 hours!
> > Well, it was six above this morning when my son went to work at 5:00 AM.
> > Wind-chill was -10F. He didn't notice any problem with them as he brushed
> > the snow off his car.
> > You want another update tomorrow?? Or do you see the point, they work
> > outdoors.
> Fair enough.
> I had some in my garage that wouldn't work in the cold of winter.
> It's been a while, don't remember the brand.
I have one that has been running non-stop as a yard light for
something like 10 years. Don'
t recall just when I put it in but it has been a long time.
Yes, in cold weather some of them will only light dimly until they
warm up.
Harry K
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>>
>> EXT wrote:
>>
>>> For those pushing fluorescent light bulbs in their many versions, have
>>> you considered the down side for the use of these bulbs.
>>>
>>> 1. The resources and energy it takes to build a CF bulb, it has to
>>> exceed what is needed for a regular incandescent bulb.
>>>
>>> 2. The cost to buy all CF or other fluorescent bulbs, no matter how
>>> cheap you can buy them they are more expensive than incandescent bulbs.
>>>
>>> 3. Not all fixtures will accept a CF or other fluorescent bulb, this
>>> requires resources and money to buy replacement fixtures.
>>>
>>> 4. Despite the hyped long life of fluorescent bulbs, CF bulbs more often
>>> than not have a considerably short life.
>>>
>>> 5. Most CF and other fluorescent bulbs cannot be dimmed with regular
>>> dimmers, any circuit with electronic dimmer or other controls will have
>>> to be rewired to eliminate these problems.
>>
>> What a list of crap that has been beat to death previously in this group.
> Dan:
> One "piece of crap" that you cannot dispute: CF bulbs have difficulty, or
> even cannot, light up in cold weather, so avoid using them when the
> temperature plummets down close to zero degrees.