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Posted by GregP on February 3, 2007, 2:38 am
 


On Feb 2, 6:09 am, "Deputy Dumbya Dawg"

Why make a law to force people to save money? Sooner of later people
will just stop buying incandescent bulbs anyway because they are
becoming obsolete technology just like typewriters.

Btw, really childish nickname.


Posted by Derek Broughton on February 2, 2007, 8:58 am
 
Sudden Disruption wrote:


It's scary how people turn reasonable legislation into myth.


No, it would ban the sale and manufacture of "general use" light bulbs.


How so.  I use less power, I spend less money.  It's working really well for
me!


Absolutely true.  However, Southern Californians are cooling their homes
(or, if they're Green, suffering with excess heat) more than half the year.
I've been in LA in January, and it's shorts and t-shirt weather.


For most of America, _some_ of the year, but for ALL of America there's a
significant part of the year that that is not the case.


For the heating months...


Common sense.
--
derek

Posted by Snap Whipcrack.............. on February 2, 2007, 11:04 am
 Sudden Disruption wrote:

Anybody who hasn't replace all their incandescent bulbs with compact
fluorescent bulbs yet is a complete idiot. They are a dime a dozen in
wholesale club stores. Some stores even have rebate coupons from your
power company.


Posted by TRecupero on February 2, 2007, 12:58 pm
 For starters, I am a "nuke the baby whales then eat them, dyed in the wool
conservative hate monger" and I am also a very firm believer in
conservation. I own an off grid house with PV cells for the sole electrical
power source. I normally use 1.2 KW a day, measured. I the summer I can keep
the house cool without AC, but pumping 400 watts into the house to run the
lights is just stupid if I can use only 80 with CF lights.
    I love those little things, I have them everywhere. I also have some
regular bulbs for OS floods. The CFs do have one drawback, they take 5
minutes to light up fully when it's 5 below.
    Electric heat is the most expensive thing there is. You also fail to
take into acount cooling costs, some folks don't live where it's cold. You
also fail to consider interior rooms that require no heat.  Is the law
stupid? Damn right it is, but not because it wouldn't save energy, but
because it's Govt getting into our lives and reducing our freedom to choose.
    I can't wait till the nutjobs find out that the CFs are loaded with
mercury.




Posted by EXT on February 2, 2007, 1:29 pm
 For those pushing fluorescent light bulbs in their many versions, have you
considered the down side for the use of these bulbs.

1. The resources and energy it takes to build a CF bulb, it has to exceed
what is needed for a regular incandescent bulb.

2. The cost to buy all CF or other fluorescent bulbs, no matter how cheap
you can buy them they are more expensive than incandescent bulbs.

3. Not all fixtures will accept a CF or other fluorescent bulb, this
requires resources and money to buy replacement fixtures.

4. Despite the hyped long life of fluorescent bulbs, CF bulbs more often
than not have a considerably short life.

5. Most CF and other fluorescent bulbs cannot be dimmed with regular
dimmers, any circuit with electronic dimmer or other controls will have to
be rewired to eliminate these problems.

I have a lot of fluorescent bulbs in my house, but do not feel they are
appropriate for all uses.



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