Posted by Michael A. Terrell on June 1, 2010, 9:53 pm
z wrote:
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>
> >
> > vaughn wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I don't believe in these alleged economies of scale. Solar panels
> >> > already represent a large industry. The economies of scale, such as
> >> > they are, have already been obtained.
> >>
> >> Not so, especially not so at the consumer level. At the consumer
> >> level PV panels remain a nitch product, so lack of retail competition
> >> and huge shipping costs because of a lack of any local distribution
> >> channel presents significant barriers.
> >>
> >> Vaughn
> >
> >
> > Harbor Freight sells several panels & systems. They do mail order
> > and
> > have a lot of retail stores in the US.
> >
> > <http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category=&q=s
> > olar&limit2>
>
> OUCH! the larger panels there are 6-8 dollars a watt
And no shipping if you buy them at a local store.
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Posted by Michael on June 2, 2010, 9:43 pm
wrote:
> z wrote:
> > > vaughn wrote:
> > >> > I don't believe in these alleged economies of scale. Solar panels
> > >> > already represent a large industry. The economies of scale, such as
> > >> > they are, have already been obtained.
> > >> Not so, especially not so at the consumer level. At the consumer
> > >> level PV panels remain a nitch product, so lack of retail competition
> > >> and huge shipping costs because of a lack of any local distribution
> > >> channel presents significant barriers.
> > >> Vaughn
> > > Harbor Freight sells several panels & systems. They do mail order
> > > and
> > > have a lot of retail stores in the US.
> > > <http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category=&q=s
> > > olar&limit=32>
> > OUCH! the larger panels there are 6-8 dollars a watt
> And no shipping if you buy them at a local store.
Right... the store pays the shipping and passes the cost right on to
the customer. :D
Michael D.
Posted by vaughn on June 2, 2010, 10:38 pm
>> And no shipping if you buy them at a local store.
>Right... the store pays the shipping and passes the cost right on to
>the customer.
Naturally, the retailer must pass *everything* on to the customer if they wish
to stay in business. That said, the store pays for wholesale shipping of large
lots, which is far cheaper than retail shipping of small lots to residential
addresses. PV panels are large, heavy, and must often be custom repackaged for
shipping if sold in small lots. All that costs money.
Vaughn
Posted by Michael A. Terrell on June 3, 2010, 1:40 am
Michael wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > z wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > vaughn wrote:
> >
> >
> > > >> > I don't believe in these alleged economies of scale. Solar panels
> > > >> > already represent a large industry. The economies of scale, such as
> > > >> > they are, have already been obtained.
> >
> > > >> Not so, especially not so at the consumer level. At the consumer
> > > >> level PV panels remain a nitch product, so lack of retail competition
> > > >> and huge shipping costs because of a lack of any local distribution
> > > >> channel presents significant barriers.
> >
> > > >> Vaughn
> >
> > > > Harbor Freight sells several panels & systems. They do mail order
> > > > and have a lot of retail stores in the US.
> >
> > > >
<http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category=&q=solar&limit2>
> >
> > > OUCH! the larger panels there are 6-8 dollars a watt
> >
> > And no shipping if you buy them at a local store.
>
> Right... the store pays the shipping and passes the cost right on to
> the customer. :D
Yes, but at a rate that is much lower than having a single item
shipped to your home. They get tractor trailer loads of product
delievered on a regular basis. You should see their back room, right
after they unload a trailer.
BTW, that 45 watt panel went on sale today for 169.99 Item number
90599, limit one, with coupon. That's $0 off their regular price.
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Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
Posted by Michael on June 3, 2010, 5:07 am
wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > wrote:
> > > z wrote:
> > > > > vaughn wrote:
> > > > >> > I don't believe in these alleged economies of scale. Solar panels
> > > > >> > already represent a large industry. The economies of scale, such as
> > > > >> > they are, have already been obtained.
> > > > >> Not so, especially not so at the consumer level. At the consumer
> > > > >> level PV panels remain a nitch product, so lack of retail competition
> > > > >> and huge shipping costs because of a lack of any local distribution
> > > > >> channel presents significant barriers.
> > > > >> Vaughn
> > > > > Harbor Freight sells several panels & systems. They do mail order
> > > > > and have a lot of retail stores in the US.
> > > > > <http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category=&q=...>
> > > > OUCH! the larger panels there are 6-8 dollars a watt
> > > And no shipping if you buy them at a local store.
> > Right... the store pays the shipping and passes the cost right on to
> > the customer. :D
> Yes, but at a rate that is much lower than having a single item
> shipped to your home. They get tractor trailer loads of product
> delievered on a regular basis. You should see their back room, right
> after they unload a trailer.
Good point!
> BTW, that 45 watt panel went on sale today for 169.99 Item number
> 90599, limit one, with coupon. That's $0 off their regular price.
> --
> Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
> have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
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> >
> > vaughn wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I don't believe in these alleged economies of scale. Solar panels
> >> > already represent a large industry. The economies of scale, such as
> >> > they are, have already been obtained.
> >>
> >> Not so, especially not so at the consumer level. At the consumer
> >> level PV panels remain a nitch product, so lack of retail competition
> >> and huge shipping costs because of a lack of any local distribution
> >> channel presents significant barriers.
> >>
> >> Vaughn
> >
> >
> > Harbor Freight sells several panels & systems. They do mail order
> > and
> > have a lot of retail stores in the US.
> >
> > <http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?category=&q=s
> > olar&limit2>
>
> OUCH! the larger panels there are 6-8 dollars a watt