Posted by Ahem A Rivet's Shot on June 5, 2010, 6:46 am
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:18:47 +1000
> Figures for output are peak numbers, but anyone running the financials
> knows that you have then to apply data relating to insolation, which are
> location dependent.
>
> The figure of $/peak watt is much more useful in practice.
It depends entirely on whether you're comparing panels or working
out payback periods.
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Posted by Sylvia Else on June 6, 2010, 2:12 am
On 5/06/2010 4:46 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:18:47 +1000
>> Figures for output are peak numbers, but anyone running the financials
>> knows that you have then to apply data relating to insolation, which are
>> location dependent.
>>
>> The figure of $/peak watt is much more useful in practice.
> It depends entirely on whether you're comparing panels or working
> out payback periods.
I don't see why. A payback period (which doesn't exist at anything like
current unsubsidised pricing) will also depend on location.
Sylvia.
Posted by Ahem A Rivet's Shot on June 6, 2010, 6:16 am
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:12:05 +1000
> On 5/06/2010 4:46 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:18:47 +1000
> >
> >> Figures for output are peak numbers, but anyone running the financials
> >> knows that you have then to apply data relating to insolation, which
> >> are location dependent.
> >>
> >> The figure of $/peak watt is much more useful in practice.
> >
> > It depends entirely on whether you're comparing panels or
> > working out payback periods.
> >
>
> I don't see why. A payback period (which doesn't exist at anything like
> current unsubsidised pricing) will also depend on location.
That is precisely the point - compare panels use $ per peak watt,
calculate payback - use $ per watt at average insolation in chosen location.
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Posted by Sylvia Else on June 7, 2010, 3:13 am
On 6/06/2010 4:16 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:12:05 +1000
>> On 5/06/2010 4:46 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:18:47 +1000
>>>
>>>> Figures for output are peak numbers, but anyone running the financials
>>>> knows that you have then to apply data relating to insolation, which
>>>> are location dependent.
>>>>
>>>> The figure of $/peak watt is much more useful in practice.
>>>
>>> It depends entirely on whether you're comparing panels or
>>> working out payback periods.
>>>
>>
>> I don't see why. A payback period (which doesn't exist at anything like
>> current unsubsidised pricing) will also depend on location.
> That is precisely the point - compare panels use $ per peak watt,
> calculate payback - use $ per watt at average insolation in chosen location.
If panel price were quoted in terms of $ per watt at some notional
average location, then you'd have to back caculate the peak price before
calculating the actual price for your specific location. So having the
peak price to start with would be much more useful than the average
price for an arbitrary place.
Sylvia.
Posted by Paul Keinanen on June 7, 2010, 4:10 am
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:18:47 +1000, Sylvia Else
>Figures for output are peak numbers, but anyone running the financials
>knows that you have then to apply data relating to insolation, which are
>location dependent.
You would also have to check the solar spectral response (varies e.g.
by the air mass) at a specific location and match that to a particular
solar panel spectral response.
The solar panel peak output is measured with an artificial "sun" with
a specific power level and a specific spectral response. Unless the
local spectral response match that of the artificial sun, there will
be some variations in the actual panel output.
> knows that you have then to apply data relating to insolation, which are
> location dependent.
>
> The figure of $/peak watt is much more useful in practice.