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Posted by Michael A. Terrell on June 1, 2010, 11:24 pm

vaughn wrote:


   Taka all the passes you want. I've bought tools from them for
decades.  I've had one bad tool out of hundreds. OTOH, I know crap tools
when I see them.  The imported Japanese tools I saw in the '70s weren't
worth taking out of the plastic bags they were shipped in, yet some
people had tool boxes full of them.  They were both poorly made and
dangerous to use.

Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

Posted by miso@sushi.com on June 2, 2010, 9:19 pm


I was in HF one day when a guy returned a reciprocating saw. It caught
fire. Need I say more!

HF is a great place to buy a tarp, those stepped hole drill bits rock,
and I use their plastic bins to organize components. But plug into the
mains? I don't think so.

Posted by Michael on June 2, 2010, 9:50 pm

Good point.  For wrenches and such, HF seems good enough for light car
maintenance work.  But...

I bought a rechargeable drill from them awhile back, and the NiCd
battery charger doesn't even have a sensor telling when charging is
done.  You have to guess when it's done charging.

Dad wanted to buy same drill (on sale for $5); I talked him out of


Posted by Joel Koltner on June 2, 2010, 10:02 pm

It's probably just a transformer->rectifier->resistor->battery, set to charge
at a C/10 rate or thereabouts.

So you just wait ~12 hours or so and you're guaranteed it's fully charged --  
no guessing necessary. :-)

There was a time, not that long ago, when most battery chargers were this, um,

Sounds like it might be worth $5, actually...

I think Harbor Freight is a good example of (1) you tend to get what you pay
for and (2) advertising leads many people to believe they need a lot more than
they really do.  Their "value for the dollar" is actually pretty good --  
unlike a well-known brand name where the "image" can sometimes be much
flashier than what you're really getting (counting on many people never
recognizing as much -- see #2), with Harbor Freight it's pretty clear exactly
how rugged (or not) the item you're purchasing is.

If you really want to impress your dad, get him one of these:
(Amazon.com product link shortened)


Posted by Michael A. Terrell on June 3, 2010, 1:47 am

Joel Koltner wrote:

   I see a lot of people buying tools for their business at Harbor
Freight, and at Northern Tools.  They don't complain about the quality,
they complain that people steal their tools.

Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

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