Posted by Ignoramus4253 on December 24, 2010, 2:08 pm
> Iggy,
> The info you need is on the build plate. The decode of that can be
> found in the first section of manual #1. Unfortunately, it appears
> missing.
Oops. Where should it be located?
> What I do know is that it is a Fan to Flywheel industrial engine
> designed to drive pumps, conveyer belt systems, rock crushers or the
> like. It has a PTO, a limiting speed governor and I think an SAE #3
> flywheel housing. I did also notice that it is equipped with an
> intake clapper, so you don't need a pillow nearby when you start
> it.
Steve, sorry for being dumb, I am reading the manual now, but where is
that clapper?
> I cannot tell if has 2 or 4 valve head. This can be determined
> when you remove the valve cover.
Will do.
> Send me a picture of that. What are you going to do with it? It can
> pull a 20 KVA alternator with a 2 valve head and a 30 KVA with a 4
> valve head. As far as age, my best guess is early 70s. Late models
> have aluminum valve covers and smaller secondary counter balance
> pulleys on the cam and countershaft. There is no turbo. Steve
I will soon take off the bottom pan and the top cover, I will take
some pictures.
i
>>
>> Steve, thanks for your words of wisdom. Regarding copyright, I am a
>> member of the Manual Liberation Front, whose goal is to liberate old
>> manuals that are trapped in dirty hands of greedy manual CD sellers
>> and web spammers, and make them freely available to the public. Feel
>> free to copy and share.
>>
>> Here's a little update.
>>
>> THE MOTOR TURNS OVER EASILY WHEN TURNED WITH A PIPE WRENCH.
>>
>> That alone is good news, if that was not the case, I would be heading
>> with it to a scrap yard tomorrow.
>>
>> Here's a web page that I set up with the info on the motor and many
>> more new pictures:
>>
>> http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Detroit-Diesel-353/
>>
>> Serial and Model Numbers
>>
>> On Block: 2 CWC-5125423-133
>> Type SW-VS
>> IDLE 550 MIN
>> Governor 5___72
>> 5138851
>>
>> Any comments on the motor? Any guess as to the year?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Life is becoming fun again!
>>
>> i
Posted by Steve Lusardi on December 24, 2010, 4:00 pm
>> Iggy,
>> The info you need is on the build plate. The decode of that can be
>> found in the first section of manual #1. Unfortunately, it appears
>> missing.
> Oops. Where should it be located?
On the side of the valve cover. There is a slot that the ID plate slides into.
It appears empty in the photo.
>> What I do know is that it is a Fan to Flywheel industrial engine
>> designed to drive pumps, conveyer belt systems, rock crushers or the
>> like. It has a PTO, a limiting speed governor and I think an SAE #3
>> flywheel housing. I did also notice that it is equipped with an
>> intake clapper, so you don't need a pillow nearby when you start
>> it.
> Steve, sorry for being dumb, I am reading the manual now, but where is
> that clapper?
It bolts on top of the blower with 4 3/8-16 bolts. Follow the taped inlet pipe
to the blower. You can't miss it. The spring and
trip mechanism is on the side of the casting.
>> I cannot tell if has 2 or 4 valve head. This can be determined
>> when you remove the valve cover.
> Will do.
>> Send me a picture of that. What are you going to do with it? It can
>> pull a 20 KVA alternator with a 2 valve head and a 30 KVA with a 4
>> valve head. As far as age, my best guess is early 70s. Late models
>> have aluminum valve covers and smaller secondary counter balance
>> pulleys on the cam and countershaft. There is no turbo. Steve
> I will soon take off the bottom pan and the top cover, I will take
> some pictures.
> i
>>>
>>> Steve, thanks for your words of wisdom. Regarding copyright, I am a
>>> member of the Manual Liberation Front, whose goal is to liberate old
>>> manuals that are trapped in dirty hands of greedy manual CD sellers
>>> and web spammers, and make them freely available to the public. Feel
>>> free to copy and share.
>>>
>>> Here's a little update.
>>>
>>> THE MOTOR TURNS OVER EASILY WHEN TURNED WITH A PIPE WRENCH.
>>>
>>> That alone is good news, if that was not the case, I would be heading
>>> with it to a scrap yard tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Here's a web page that I set up with the info on the motor and many
>>> more new pictures:
>>>
>>> http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Detroit-Diesel-353/
>>>
>>> Serial and Model Numbers
>>>
>>> On Block: 2 CWC-5125423-133
>>> Type SW-VS
>>> IDLE 550 MIN
>>> Governor 5___72
>>> 5138851
>>>
>>> Any comments on the motor? Any guess as to the year?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Life is becoming fun again!
>>>
>>> i
>>
Posted by Ignoramus4253 on December 25, 2010, 4:04 am
>>> Iggy,
>>
>>> The info you need is on the build plate. The decode of that can be
>>> found in the first section of manual #1. Unfortunately, it appears
>>> missing.
>>
>> Oops. Where should it be located?
> On the side of the valve cover. There is a slot that the ID plate
> slides into. It appears empty in the photo.
It is not empty, I looked at it with a good light and found out the
build number and the serial.
5033-7001
3D-97891
According to
http://igor.chudov.com/manuals/Detroit-Diesel/Detroit-Diesel-Series-53/Detroit-Diesel-Engine-Serial-Numbers.pdf
This is a DD 353, built in 1972.
Per the first number, it is a 3 cylinder 53 engine, fan-to-flywheel
industrial, RC arrangement, "N" engine (whatever this means), starter
opposite blower.
Since it is younger than me (1971), I consider it to be a relatively
new engine.
>>
>>> What I do know is that it is a Fan to Flywheel industrial engine
>>> designed to drive pumps, conveyer belt systems, rock crushers or the
>>> like. It has a PTO, a limiting speed governor and I think an SAE #3
>>> flywheel housing. I did also notice that it is equipped with an
>>> intake clapper, so you don't need a pillow nearby when you start
>>> it.
>>
>> Steve, sorry for being dumb, I am reading the manual now, but where is
>> that clapper?
> It bolts on top of the blower with 4 3/8-16 bolts. Follow the taped inlet pipe
to the blower. You can't miss it. The spring and
> trip mechanism is on the side of the casting.
>>
>>> I cannot tell if has 2 or 4 valve head. This can be determined
>>> when you remove the valve cover.
>>
>> Will do.
>>
>>> Send me a picture of that. What are you going to do with it? It can
>>> pull a 20 KVA alternator with a 2 valve head and a 30 KVA with a 4
>>> valve head. As far as age, my best guess is early 70s. Late models
>>> have aluminum valve covers and smaller secondary counter balance
>>> pulleys on the cam and countershaft. There is no turbo. Steve
>>
>> I will soon take off the bottom pan and the top cover, I will take
>> some pictures.
>>
>> i
>>>>
>>>> Steve, thanks for your words of wisdom. Regarding copyright, I am a
>>>> member of the Manual Liberation Front, whose goal is to liberate old
>>>> manuals that are trapped in dirty hands of greedy manual CD sellers
>>>> and web spammers, and make them freely available to the public. Feel
>>>> free to copy and share.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a little update.
>>>>
>>>> THE MOTOR TURNS OVER EASILY WHEN TURNED WITH A PIPE WRENCH.
>>>>
>>>> That alone is good news, if that was not the case, I would be heading
>>>> with it to a scrap yard tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a web page that I set up with the info on the motor and many
>>>> more new pictures:
>>>>
>>>> http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Detroit-Diesel-353/
>>>>
>>>> Serial and Model Numbers
>>>>
>>>> On Block: 2 CWC-5125423-133
>>>> Type SW-VS
>>>> IDLE 550 MIN
>>>> Governor 5___72
>>>> 5138851
>>>>
>>>> Any comments on the motor? Any guess as to the year?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Life is becoming fun again!
>>>>
>>>> i
>>>
Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on December 25, 2010, 4:07 am
> This is a DD 353, built in 1972.
So, it's basically a "half brother" (Hah!) to the 651.
Neat. We ran 651s on PBR and 1271s on PCFs over in 'Nam.
LLoyd
Posted by Steve Lusardi on December 25, 2010, 6:58 am
Lloyd,
Those where 6-53Ts on the PBRs 400 BHP ea. You could find aluminum versions of
that motor on some APCs and those are very rare.
You will note that your statement about the V53s being the big brother of the
in-line 53s is very true. Many of the parts are
interchangeable, including the cylinder heads. What is very unique about the 53T
motors is that they use a blow through blower, as
the 53 series blowers use straight rotors, as apposed to the other DDA families
that use twisted rotors. When the turbo boost
exceeded 10 PSI, that would trigger a hydraulic valve that used lube oil
pressure to shift an internal bar in the rotor against an
internal spring. Once actuated, the shifted bar uncovered a series of cross
drilled holes in the rotors. DD stated that relieving
the blower load in that fashion saved 10-15 HP at the flywheel. All in all, the
DDAs were very high tech motors and way ahead of
their time. As you can tell, I am a real fan of the DDAs.
Steve
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
>> This is a DD 353, built in 1972.
> So, it's basically a "half brother" (Hah!) to the 651.
> Neat. We ran 651s on PBR and 1271s on PCFs over in 'Nam.
> LLoyd
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> The info you need is on the build plate. The decode of that can be
> found in the first section of manual #1. Unfortunately, it appears
> missing.