Posted by Rich Grise on May 20, 2009, 1:16 pm
On Wed, 20 May 2009 00:53:20 +0000, Don Klipstein wrote:
>
>>5. Why not xenon?
>
> As an active ingredient to produce shortwave UV in fluorescent lamps?
No, you simpleton, to produce white light directly. Ever heard of a
xenon flash tube?
Thanks,
Rich
Posted by Don Klipstein on May 20, 2009, 8:23 pm
>On Wed, 20 May 2009 00:53:20 +0000, Don Klipstein wrote:
>>
>>>5. Why not xenon?
>>
>> As an active ingredient to produce shortwave UV in fluorescent lamps?
>No, you simpleton, to produce white light directly. Ever heard of a
>xenon flash tube?
Xenon does have a problem at low power efficiently glowing continuously
or in a manner appearing to glow continuously. I mention this in more
detail in a web file of mine:
http://members.misty.com/don/cntxe.html
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
Posted by William Wixon on May 20, 2009, 1:56 am
> On Tue, 19 May 2009 20:08:12 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
>>> Yeah, but I don't _LIKE_ CFL's. And I can't imagine one fitting in any
>>> of
>>> my sockets, and an ordinary 1813 is about 75 cents.
>>
>> What don't you like about them ?
> 1. Short life.
> 2. Inconvenient size/shape.
> 3. The warmingists want to shove them down our throats.
> 4. The mercury - well, not so much the mercury itself - heck, when we were
> kids, we used to play with liquid mercury - but the total hypocrisy
> when the pushers ignore even the possibility of mercury in the
> landfills, not that I'm an antimercury type. What the hell, ask
> anybody - I'm already mad as a hatter! ;-D
> 5. Why not xenon?
> Thanks,
> Rich
can i say, though i replaced nearly every incandescent light bulb in my
house with cfls, what i don't like about cfls? i don't like the friggin'
GREEN color of the light. creepy. it's not the warm red glow that i'm used
to and that's comforting and so inviting (driving by people's homes in the
winter, with the warm reddish glow of incandescent burning inside). i
actually HATE the color of cfls. the first time i replaced a incandescent
with a cfl i was like "UGH, ok, that's it, no more of THAT!" after
repeatedly hearing how much energy i was going to save i finally broke down
and installed the rest of the 6 pack of cfls i bought.
b.w.
Posted by Eeyore on May 20, 2009, 1:40 pm
Rich Grise wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Rich Grise wrote:
> >> Eeyore wrote:
> >> > Rich Grise wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> When they come up with a, say, 5-year full-replacement warranty, I'll
> >> >> think about buying one, albeit if I'm still living in my RV, I won't
> >> >> need any anyway, since all my lights are 12v. ;-)
> >> >
> >> > You can easily get 12V CFLs.
> >>
> >> Yeah, but I don't _LIKE_ CFL's. And I can't imagine one fitting in any of
> >> my sockets, and an ordinary 1813 is about 75 cents.
> >
> > What don't you like about them ?
> 1. Short life.
Not in my expereince. These latest ones were rated at 10,000 hrs and I had one
15,000 hr one which I'm sure must have made it. It lasted for years on end.
> 2. Inconvenient size/shape.
There is something in that but the newer spiral ones are more compatible.
> 3. The warmingists want to shove them down our throats.
I'll give you that. Or at least as far as they want to get rid of incandescents,
although I gather halogens have had a recent reprieve and any banning is still a
long time off.
> 4. The mercury - well, not so much the mercury itself - heck, when we were
> kids, we used to play with liquid mercury - but the total hypocrisy
> when the pushers ignore even the possibility of mercury in the
> landfills, not that I'm an antimercury type. What the hell, ask
> anybody - I'm already mad as a hatter! ;-D
Huh, they mark them here with an indication not to dispose of them with
household waste but don't provide an alternative !
> 5. Why not xenon?
Aren't they rather expensive and an even worse colour temp ?
Graham
Posted by Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's n on May 21, 2009, 11:18 am
> Rich Grise wrote:
>> 4. The mercury - well, not so much the mercury itself - heck, when we
>> were
>> kids, we used to play with liquid mercury - but the total hypocrisy
>> when the pushers ignore even the possibility of mercury in the
>> landfills, not that I'm an antimercury type. What the hell, ask
>> anybody - I'm already mad as a hatter! ;-D
> Huh, they mark them here with an indication not to dispose of them with
> household waste but don't provide an alternative !
I crush mine into a fine powder and sprinkle it around the nearest
Starbucks.
LG (KIDDING)
--
Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently. - Henry Ford
>>5. Why not xenon?
>
> As an active ingredient to produce shortwave UV in fluorescent lamps?