Hybrid Car – More Fun with Less Gas

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Posted by Allan on August 18, 2008, 2:17 pm
Actually I wanted to voice y ideas for an efficient idea for transport for
most people.

In my case the majority of my driving is smaller trips less than 30
kilometres. Commuters would perhaps travel 50 kms given the spread of cities
perhaps slightly more.
So instead of building hybrid cars which still require oil for use car
companies should build vehicles that are battery electric vehicles  but for
longer trips  have a generator assembly in a trailer or easily attachable
cradle.   There are one wheel trailer designs that may work as well as two
wheels. Since these wont be needed much local garages could hire them out ,
they could be well maintained and tuned or you could own your own. Perhaps
there could be different size generators depending on your needs, a longer
trip take the larger design. Or have a small 2-5 kilowatt generator that can
recharge the car while your having lunch or to act as a backup.  Include a
solar panel on the roof to charge batteries in the day time at work or while
driving to extend range.
You would have a generator for longer trips to use while camping etc
Alternatively we could hire vehicles for rarer longer trips or use public
We can complete 95% of our transport needs, and longer trips usually of a
discretionary nature like holidays, recreation wont be a iimpediment. We
will always be ale to get to work or the shops.  Of course pulic transport
would be preferable if possible. But for say country people its unrealistic
to think we will be able to supply everyone with pulic transport..
This will mean we could reduce oil consumption by 95% and we wont be faced
with increasingly more expensive fuel. Energy could be sourced from
alternative local sources if desired.
We would never face another OPEC oil embargo of much effect like in the 70s.
We wont find it necessary to invade middle eastern countries or worry aout
oil security as much.
Other developments like Algael fuel my even mean independance in oil.
Oil prices may even drop given the drop in demand.
Any way I hope the car manufacturers get it right and consider this concept.
Id buy one for daily use even though I may have a second vehicle. I saw a
show today a comparison of normal driving involving a Prius a 1 litre
vehicle and a citroen diesel vehicle. The 1 litre car and the Prius only
returned 35 mpg while the diesel returned 54 mpg. This was highway driving
of course requiring the prius generator engine to be used a lot. So really
there wasnt the benefit that youd get for short trips down the shops where
you could use battery power. But your still reliant on oil and the
instability we increasingly see.

Anyhow my 2c

Posted by danny burstein on August 18, 2008, 2:36 pm

That's the concept behind the GM "Volt", except that
the electrical generator is onboard rather than in
a trailer.

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Posted by Jim on August 20, 2008, 4:26 pm

Do I remember correctly that the original 'VOLT" tested in CA
did not have any auxillary generator, was strictly electric?
Do you know what type of batteries it used?  

There was a special on it
something like "The Man That Killed The Electric Car"... It showed the
tow trucks picking up the Volts, and people were almost ready to
revolt at having to give them back.  Nice looking cars.

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:36:30 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein

Posted by Ulysses on August 20, 2008, 4:44 pm

That was called "Who Killed The Electric Car?"  One of my clients was in
that movie and she gave me a copy of the DVD.  I don't remember it being the
"Volt" that was the main star of the movie.  I guess I'll have to look
again.  Overall the movie was a very biased, one-sided, narrow-minded
liberal piece of propaganda that ignored the realities.  In any case I don't
see why my client didn't get to keep her car.  She was charging it with
solar panels on her roof.

The short answer to the question the movie asked is "the marketplace."


Posted by Eeyore on August 20, 2008, 5:50 pm

Jim wrote:

You mean the EV1 ?

Ugly as sin in my book and only seated 2 IIRC. Very limited range too compared
to hybrids.


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