Posted by jaugustine on February 14, 2015, 3:18 pm
>On 2/13/2015 11:40 PM, Bob F wrote:
>> I've had a few engined that take some time for the fuel to fill the bowl.
>Many small engines these days have fuel pumps, even when it appears that
>gravity feed would have been sufficient. They are tiny devices, little
>more than a lump in the fuel line with a third hose that goes off
>somewhere to provide a pressure pulse to make them work. Any engine
>that has one might seem hard starting if the fuel bowl is dry, because
>it will take several pulls to pump gas to the bowl.
Hi Vaughn,
Below is from my previous post. Please comprehend what it says.
> IMPORTANT:
>
> When I bought this generator (new) on Dec 22, 2014, the
>temp was around 50 degrees
>
> Note: This is a gravity feed (gas tank above engine) system.
>
> After I filled the gas tank, I opened the fuel valve, and without
>waiting very long (maybe about 15 seconds), the generator started with only
>one pull.
Notice I said, "the generator started with only one pull". This
generator was "bone dry" when I bought it new.
The main difference between the first time, and later is the temperature
of the generator. The first time, it was mild (50 degrees). After that,
the generator was COLD.
QUESTION:
When the generator is COLD, does it take a while to fill the "bowl"?
John
Posted by Martin Riddle on February 16, 2015, 11:27 pm
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:18:08 -0500, jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:
>
>>On 2/13/2015 11:40 PM, Bob F wrote:
>>> I've had a few engined that take some time for the fuel to fill the bowl.
>>Many small engines these days have fuel pumps, even when it appears that
>>gravity feed would have been sufficient. They are tiny devices, little
>>more than a lump in the fuel line with a third hose that goes off
>>somewhere to provide a pressure pulse to make them work. Any engine
>>that has one might seem hard starting if the fuel bowl is dry, because
>>it will take several pulls to pump gas to the bowl.
>
>Hi Vaughn,
>
> Below is from my previous post. Please comprehend what it says.
>
>> IMPORTANT:
>>
>> When I bought this generator (new) on Dec 22, 2014, the
>>temp was around 50 degrees
>>
>> Note: This is a gravity feed (gas tank above engine) system.
>>
>> After I filled the gas tank, I opened the fuel valve, and without
>>waiting very long (maybe about 15 seconds), the generator started with only
>>one pull.
>
> Notice I said, "the generator started with only one pull". This
>generator was "bone dry" when I bought it new.
>
> The main difference between the first time, and later is the temperature
>of the generator. The first time, it was mild (50 degrees). After that,
>the generator was COLD.
>
> QUESTION:
>
> When the generator is COLD, does it take a while to fill the "bowl"?
>
> John
>
>
Is the OP using a summer blend of fuel or winter. There is a slight
difference that might affect starting.
Cheers
Posted by jaugustine on February 17, 2015, 2:22 pm
>
>Is the OP using a summer blend of fuel or winter. There is a slight
>difference that might affect starting.
>
>Cheers
Hi Martin,
You brought up a logical point I never thought of.
It is odd that Brian, Champion support, never mentioned that to
me when I told him about the hard starting cold generator.
The gas I put in the generator, I bought in August or September in a 5 gal.
container for my lawn mower. It is that gas I put in the generator.
Do you know for a fact that a gasoline blend changes for cold weather?
Thank You for your help, John
Posted by clare on February 17, 2015, 5:09 pm
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:22:14 -0500, jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:
>>
>>Is the OP using a summer blend of fuel or winter. There is a slight
>>difference that might affect starting.
>>
>>Cheers
>
>Hi Martin,
>
> You brought up a logical point I never thought of.
>
> It is odd that Brian, Champion support, never mentioned that to
>me when I told him about the hard starting cold generator.
>
> The gas I put in the generator, I bought in August or September in a 5 gal.
>container for my lawn mower. It is that gas I put in the generator.
>
> Do you know for a fact that a gasoline blend changes for cold weather?
>
> Thank You for your help, John
It is a fact, but I doubt that is the problem.
Posted by Martin Riddle on February 19, 2015, 3:05 am
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:09:28 -0500, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:22:14 -0500, jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Is the OP using a summer blend of fuel or winter. There is a slight
>>>difference that might affect starting.
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>
>>Hi Martin,
>>
>> You brought up a logical point I never thought of.
>>
>> It is odd that Brian, Champion support, never mentioned that to
>>me when I told him about the hard starting cold generator.
>>
>> The gas I put in the generator, I bought in August or September in a 5 gal.
>>container for my lawn mower. It is that gas I put in the generator.
>>
>> Do you know for a fact that a gasoline blend changes for cold weather?
>>
>> Thank You for your help, John
> It is a fact, but I doubt that is the problem.
They are adjusted for VOC I believe, so that the blend does not boil
off in the warmer weather.
You can google it, but winter blend is more volatile and has more
butane in it resulting in lower mileage, but should be easier to
start.
Cheers
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>> I've had a few engined that take some time for the fuel to fill the bowl.
>Many small engines these days have fuel pumps, even when it appears that
>gravity feed would have been sufficient. They are tiny devices, little
>more than a lump in the fuel line with a third hose that goes off
>somewhere to provide a pressure pulse to make them work. Any engine
>that has one might seem hard starting if the fuel bowl is dry, because
>it will take several pulls to pump gas to the bowl.