Posted by Pig Sick on June 19, 2006, 10:50 am
Hi, can anyone help me please?
I'm connecting a 2.5 kW WT to my domestic hot water immersion element
as its primary load, but need to switch the immersion over onto mains
power if there's no wind. The HW tank has a single immersion heater
element and no opportunity to add another (so I cannot have the easy
solution of one mains, one WT element). I reckon I need a double pole
changeover switch (i.e. double pole double throw) so that I can do
this; ideally I'd like to do this automatically with a relay, so if
there's no wind it switches to mains, but if there's windpower it uses
that as the default. I can see the diagram for it in my mind's eye,
electro-magnet and all, but my question is: is such a device available?
I'm in the UK where we use no-nonsense 240v mains electricity. (I
electrocuted myself when I was a wee boy, but fortunately lived in the
US at the time so I'm still here to ask this question.) The WT is
nominally 240V, but of course less than that at low wind speeds.
I've just dipped in to the NG, so apologies if this topic has already
been done to death.
Posted by samc on June 19, 2006, 4:07 pm
Pig Sick wrote:
> Hi, can anyone help me please?
>
> I'm connecting a 2.5 kW WT to my domestic hot water immersion element
> as its primary load, but need to switch the immersion over onto mains
> power if there's no wind. The HW tank has a single immersion heater
> element and no opportunity to add another (so I cannot have the easy
> solution of one mains, one WT element). I reckon I need a double pole
> changeover switch (i.e. double pole double throw) so that I can do
> this; ideally I'd like to do this automatically with a relay, so if
> there's no wind it switches to mains, but if there's windpower it uses
> that as the default. I can see the diagram for it in my mind's eye,
> electro-magnet and all, but my question is: is such a device available?
>
> I'm in the UK where we use no-nonsense 240v mains electricity. (I
> electrocuted myself when I was a wee boy, but fortunately lived in the
> US at the time so I'm still here to ask this question.) The WT is
> nominally 240V, but of course less than that at low wind speeds.
>
> I've just dipped in to the NG, so apologies if this topic has already
> been done to death.
>
you can buy a double element i.e two elements brazed into one fitting .
there made for economy 7 systems with a single boss cyl . this allows
for the use of boost on old systems with separate white meter .
I think sadia heater make them .
also if in doubt consult a qualifyed electrician !
240 vac is dangerous and 240v dc is extreamly dangerous !
Posted by Pooh Bear on June 19, 2006, 4:14 pm
samc wrote:
> 240 vac is dangerous and 240v dc is extreamly dangerous !
AC is normally considered more dangerous since it tends to make ppl 'freeze'.
Graham
Posted by samc on June 19, 2006, 4:58 pm
Pooh Bear wrote:
>
> samc wrote:
>
>
>>240 vac is dangerous and 240v dc is extreamly dangerous !
>
>
> AC is normally considered more dangerous since it tends to make ppl 'freeze'.
>
> Graham
>
>
on a lighter note shorly you meen fry ?
my baseis for makeing the above statement is that grid ac passes though
0 volts reguly (all thought the peak is of cause higher than the nom
r.m.s value) of cause I may stand corrected . do I have evidence to back
my asertion up ? urr no . the above statement was more of a warning
about the dangers of high voltage equipment .
Posted by FukUSpamer@fukspamer.com on June 19, 2006, 9:52 pm
> samc wrote:
>> 240 vac is dangerous and 240v dc is extreamly dangerous !
> AC is normally considered more dangerous since it tends to make ppl
> 'freeze'.
> Graham
I wonder when it will freez ya ROYAL NASTY ASS cauz you definately deserve
it most
>
> I'm connecting a 2.5 kW WT to my domestic hot water immersion element
> as its primary load, but need to switch the immersion over onto mains
> power if there's no wind. The HW tank has a single immersion heater
> element and no opportunity to add another (so I cannot have the easy
> solution of one mains, one WT element). I reckon I need a double pole
> changeover switch (i.e. double pole double throw) so that I can do
> this; ideally I'd like to do this automatically with a relay, so if
> there's no wind it switches to mains, but if there's windpower it uses
> that as the default. I can see the diagram for it in my mind's eye,
> electro-magnet and all, but my question is: is such a device available?
>
> I'm in the UK where we use no-nonsense 240v mains electricity. (I
> electrocuted myself when I was a wee boy, but fortunately lived in the
> US at the time so I'm still here to ask this question.) The WT is
> nominally 240V, but of course less than that at low wind speeds.
>
> I've just dipped in to the NG, so apologies if this topic has already
> been done to death.
>