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Posted by Norman Dowds on January 6, 2005, 12:42 am
 
Has anyone had experienced using two chargers in parallel ? I have been
considering doing so and am looking for experienced guidance on how to
protect against reverse polarity and backfeed if indeed that can be easliy
done . One possilbity seems to be to rely on a charger feature of revese
polarity protection .

Would like to hear from practical experience .



Posted by Eric Sears on January 5, 2005, 4:16 pm
 
Norman
As other have said, it depends to some extent on -
a) WHAT you are charging  (lead acid battery??)
b) WHAT KIND of charger you are using.

From practical experience, I have often put two battery chargers
(simple transformer type) on a car or deep cycle battery to increase
the charging current - but I watch the voltage and the gassing of the
batteries.
In general the diodes or bridge rectifiers in the chargers will
prevent current from feeding back into them - though this may not
apply in some situations where you are using more complicated
chargers.

I am presuming you are talking about grid-power chargers.
Clarifying your question, or explaining the situation,may help .

Eric

wrote:



Posted by Norman Dowds on January 6, 2005, 5:32 am
 Thanks for the reply . In my off grid application , I am using an inverter
whose performance of interest is much more on charging than providing
inverted ac power . As such I have been giving thought to using a charger in
parallel versus upgrading the inverter . I would like to sustain a C/5 or 6
charging rate and believe that to do so will require boosting the charge
rate . I understand the trade offs of doing so as they are related to
battery life etc .

I hope this shed some light .

thx



Posted by Gymy Bob on January 6, 2005, 2:07 am
 It depends on the type of battery you are using and the nature of each
charger. If it is a low impedance charger then oscillations (hunting) can
occur between them.

Many chargers are not filters and depend on the battery charge to provide a
charge dfeedback to the control circuits.. Seeing the other charger's peak
waveform charging spike may upset the others sensing circuit. Gain and
anti-hunting controls may help. Turn them on with caution and possibly
provide some impedance in the wiring between them. Common connection at the
bank and not the chargers.

I doubt diodes will work becuase of the negative charge current not going to
the sensing circuit between waveform peaks. Depends if the charger has good
filtering on the sensing and/or power output.






Posted by m II on January 6, 2005, 2:32 am
 Gymy Bob wrote:

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