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Posted by amdx on October 17, 2014, 3:50 pm
On 10/17/2014 7:18 AM, Morris Dovey wrote:

  Hmm... There was always the secret catalyst, I thought maybe it came
out as Lithium or somehow the Inconel wire, but I think there's
a bit more to the Inconel.

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Posted by Morris Dovey on October 18, 2014, 1:25 am
On 10/17/14 10:50 AM, amdx wrote:

According to Rossi’s original reports, he first noticed the heat  
production in an externally heated copper reaction chamber fueled only  
with nickel powder and hydrogen gas – with no other substances present.

If the Inconel has been a participant in more recent reactions, it is  
almost certainly as an additional source of nickel (fuel).

Morris Dovey

Posted by mike on October 17, 2014, 10:28 pm
 On 10/16/2014 9:03 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:

Yeah but...
It looks like the magic is in the dogbone thing.
And it isn't surrounded by a lot of infrastructure.
And the color suggests that it runs hot enough to generate steam.

The potential of this device is enormous.  Society could afford to put
a large percentage of the world's creativity on this to bring it to

So, while I agree that you probably won't ever be able to buy a device
of this energy density at Home Depot, I'd expect them to show up
at local electrical power substations.

We got to the moon in 10 years.  Why does it take so much time to put
a box around the dogbone?  Assuming the hype is true and it works.

Color me "Impatient"!

Posted by Morris Dovey on October 18, 2014, 2:45 am
 On 10/17/14 5:28 PM, mike wrote:

“The reactor operating point was set to about 1260˚C in the first half  
of the run, and at about 1400˚C in the second half.”

Hmm - Do you think? 1260˚C = 2300˚F and 1400˚C = 2552˚F

(The boiling point of water is 100˚C = 212˚F and the melting point of  
Nickel is 1453˚C = 2647˚F)

It could – but society’s choice so far has been to vilify all those  
who’ve worked to make that happen.

They’ll (probably) show up in both places, but not until after they’ve  
been used to power tanks, drones, and the new weapons technologies they  
make possible.

You’re (conveniently?) forgetting that the engineers and scientists  
involved with getting to the moon were characterized as “good guys” and  
provided with all the resources they needed, while the folks who’ve  
wanted the world to have this technology have been characterized as  
scammers, cheats, and liars – their reported results characterized as  
“smoke and mirrors” - and they’ve been obliged to pay the costs of  
development out of their own pockets and on their own time.

Trying to be charitable, I color you “Foolish”.

Morris Dovey

Posted by mike on October 18, 2014, 7:15 am
 On 10/17/2014 7:45 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:

Rossi was his own worst enemy.  His demos were crafted to make it impossible
for anybody to tell if it worked.
He operated as if ECAT was a scam...and people agreed.

While the technology has certainly enabled terrestrial innovation,
at the time, nobody had any reason to go except "that we can".
Kennedy needed an objective that people could buy into that spent
lots of money to invigorate the economy...and maybe enable better
delivery of mass destruction.

All you gotta do is DEMONSTRATE that it works.
Assuming the data is truthful, it seems that this has been done.

And if it's as easy as it looks, YOU should have one working in your  
garage.  They can't keep the secret sauce secret forever.
I'm kinda surprised that someone didn't steal the prototype.
The world runs on money.  And there's so much money in this thing
that it's uncountable...if it works.
And that's the question that nobody has definitively answered.

Whatever floats your boat.  Don't matter to me what color you think I am.

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