Posted by clare on January 23, 2009, 1:17 pm
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:59:07 -0800 (PST), harry k
>On Jan 22, 4:10 pm, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> wrote:
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>> >I have heard that th"face cord" is a pile of wood that is 4 foot by 8 foot,
>> >without specifying the depth. Thus a 4x8 sheet of 1/4 plywood qualifies.
>> >> Someone might have typed at some time in some message
>> >> on some date:
>>
>> >>> Actually, it is in the Oxford Dictionary. 128 cubic feet, it says,
>> >>> *usually*. Usually? Not on Sundays, maybe. Who would use a "usually"
>> >>> unit?
>>
>> >> Two years ago I bought a "cord" of wood. The problem
>> >> with a cord is that the wood must be stacked. Stacking
>> >> is not only inexact, but labor intensive, so some wood
>> >> sellers opt for a larger volume of piled wood. The cord
>> >> I got two years ago was delivered in a 4'x6'x8' dump
>> >> body; the center of the pile extending even higher than
>> >> the 4' sides. I didn't have any more desire to stack it
>> >> than did the vendor, but I can guarantee that if I had,
>> >> it would have been a generous cord indeed. Sometimes
>> >> "usually" units are simply more convenient for the seller,
>> >> and more valuable to the buyer.
>>
>> >>> I've heard the expression "face cord" in the States. I gather it
>> >>> involves the area of one side of a stack of wood, not knowing how thick
>> >>> it is.
>>
>> >> A face cord of 24" lengths is stacked. It's a half
>> >> cord. A face cord of 16" lengths is likewise stacked,
>> >> and is 1/3 cord.
>>
>> >>> The whole thing is daft.
>>
>> >> Yes, completely daft to anyone who doesn't buy or
>> >> sell firewood... but certainly no more daft than using
>> >> a BBS to post to Usenet in the 21st century.
>>
>> A face cord is 4X8X16" (stove length) and is 1/3 of a bush cord -
>> which is 4X4X8 feet. and is defined by Canadian Weights and Measures.
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>I seriously doubt that there is a _legal_ definition of a face cord.
>Could you post a cite?
>Harry K
I checked - in CANADA there is.
You can look it up as easily as I did.
Also known as a "stove cord" - stove wood is 16"
Posted by vaughn on January 23, 2009, 1:37 pm
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:59:07 -0800 (PST), harry k
>>I seriously doubt that there is a _legal_ definition of a face cord.
>>Could you post a cite?
>>
>>Harry K
> I checked - in CANADA there is.
> You can look it up as easily as I did.
> Also known as a "stove cord" - stove wood is 16"
Clare is correct...twice! There IS a Canadian legal definition for a
cord and it IS very easy to look up. It took me about 60 seconds via
Google. I could give a link, but that would take all of the fun out of it,
wouldn't it?
Vaughn
Posted by harry k on January 23, 2009, 4:16 pm
wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:59:07 -0800 (PST), harry k
> >>I seriously doubt that there is a _legal_ definition of a face cord.
> >>Could you post a cite?
> >>Harry K
> > I checked - in CANADA there is.
> > You can look it up as easily as I did.
> > Also known as a "stove cord" - stove wood is 16"
> Clare is correct...twice! There IS a Canadian legal definition for a
> cord and it IS very easy to look up. It took me about 60 seconds via
> Google. I could give a link, but that would take all of the fun out of it,
> wouldn't it?
> Vaughn
Well, after 30 minutes of trying I finally found a PDF file of the
Canadian Weights and Measures site for firewood. I hoped it would be
simple as those are the only searches I am good at. It wasn't.
http://www.gov.ns.ca/NATR/publications/energy/buyfirewood.pdf
"The cord, cubic foot, cubic yard , stacked cubic metre and weight are
the only legal volume measurements defined under the Weights and
Measures Act for selling fuelwood unless it is sold prepackaged. The
face cord, face cord, short cord, thrown cord, processed cord and
other such common terms are not legal measures in Canada".
Now I have a feeling that Clare is correct but until I see the cite,
I'll stick with what my cite says.
Harry K
Posted by harry k on January 24, 2009, 3:28 pm
> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:59:07 -0800 (PST), harry k
> > >>I seriously doubt that there is a _legal_ definition of a face cord.
> > >>Could you post a cite?
> > >>Harry K
> > > I checked - in CANADA there is.
> > > You can look it up as easily as I did.
> > > Also known as a "stove cord" - stove wood is 16"
> > Clare is correct...twice! There IS a Canadian legal definition for a
> > cord and it IS very easy to look up. It took me about 60 seconds via
> > Google. I could give a link, but that would take all of the fun out of it,
> > wouldn't it?
> > Vaughn
> Well, after 30 minutes of trying I finally found a PDF file of the
> Canadian Weights and Measures site for firewood. I hoped it would be
> simple as those are the only searches I am good at. It wasn't.
> http://www.gov.ns.ca/NATR/publications/energy/buyfirewood.pdf
> "The cord, cubic foot, cubic yard , stacked cubic metre and weight are
> the only legal volume measurements defined under the Weights and
> Measures Act for selling fuelwood unless it is sold prepackaged. The
> face cord, face cord, short cord, thrown cord, processed cord and
> other such common terms are not legal measures in Canada".
> Now I have a feeling that Clare is correct but until I see the cite,
> I'll stick with what my cite says.
> Harry K- Hide quoted text -
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Well, well, what a surprise. Mr cl and vaughn both.
1. Claimed there was a legal definition of a face cord in Canada
2. Turned into butt heads when asked for a cite.
3. Tucked tail in and ran when I posted a cite showing they were
wrong.
Harry K
Posted by vaughn on January 24, 2009, 4:07 pm
>3. Tucked tail in and ran when I posted a cite showing they were
>wrong.
I thought that we were just exchanging friendly banter. Now I discover that
I was wasting time on a complete asshole.
Silly me.
Vaughn
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>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >I have heard that th"face cord" is a pile of wood that is 4 foot by 8 foot,
>> >without specifying the depth. Thus a 4x8 sheet of 1/4 plywood qualifies.
>> >> Someone might have typed at some time in some message
>> >> on some date:
>>
>> >>> Actually, it is in the Oxford Dictionary. 128 cubic feet, it says,
>> >>> *usually*. Usually? Not on Sundays, maybe. Who would use a "usually"
>> >>> unit?
>>
>> >> Two years ago I bought a "cord" of wood. The problem
>> >> with a cord is that the wood must be stacked. Stacking
>> >> is not only inexact, but labor intensive, so some wood
>> >> sellers opt for a larger volume of piled wood. The cord
>> >> I got two years ago was delivered in a 4'x6'x8' dump
>> >> body; the center of the pile extending even higher than
>> >> the 4' sides. I didn't have any more desire to stack it
>> >> than did the vendor, but I can guarantee that if I had,
>> >> it would have been a generous cord indeed. Sometimes
>> >> "usually" units are simply more convenient for the seller,
>> >> and more valuable to the buyer.
>>
>> >>> I've heard the expression "face cord" in the States. I gather it
>> >>> involves the area of one side of a stack of wood, not knowing how thick
>> >>> it is.
>>
>> >> A face cord of 24" lengths is stacked. It's a half
>> >> cord. A face cord of 16" lengths is likewise stacked,
>> >> and is 1/3 cord.
>>
>> >>> The whole thing is daft.
>>
>> >> Yes, completely daft to anyone who doesn't buy or
>> >> sell firewood... but certainly no more daft than using
>> >> a BBS to post to Usenet in the 21st century.
>>
>> A face cord is 4X8X16" (stove length) and is 1/3 of a bush cord -
>> which is 4X4X8 feet. and is defined by Canadian Weights and Measures.
>>
>>
>>
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>I seriously doubt that there is a _legal_ definition of a face cord.
>Could you post a cite?
>Harry K