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Posted by ransley on March 12, 2009, 8:15 pm
 

A pot is to slow, 45 minutes in a pressure cooker does mine all the
time. I cant think you would need more than 1 hr. Think of the money
you will save cooking with a pressure cooker instead of running the
stove in summer, all day, when its hot out.  Then I make dog food, all
chicken bones, beans and brown rice are cooked for 45 minutes. Chicken
bones come out soft.

Posted by Ulysses on March 13, 2009, 10:20 pm
 


A pot is to slow, 45 minutes in a pressure cooker does mine all the
time. I cant think you would need more than 1 hr. Think of the money
you will save cooking with a pressure cooker instead of running the
stove in summer, all day, when its hot out.  Then I make dog food, all
chicken bones, beans and brown rice are cooked for 45 minutes. Chicken
bones come out soft.

Good point about the pressure cooker.  I've been meaning to look for one.
Never used one though.

Make your own dog food eh?  Got a recipe?  The stuff I buy is up to $5 and
they reduced it from 40 pounds to 35!!!  Plus they changed the Lamb and Rice
(Nutro) that I was getting and now it's crap so I switched to Oatmeal and
Chicken.  I give my dogs meat and rice and chicken stew and such along with
their dog food but I would give them only homemade food if I was sure the
were getting the proper nutrition.  Almost all the other dog foods out there
(unless you go exotic) are mostly corn and I'm not paying $10/pound for
defective, rejected corn.



Posted by ransley on March 13, 2009, 10:02 pm
 
You dont know what is in dog food you buy like with the Chinese
Melamine poison of 07. What you get isnt the nutricious parts of
products and nutrition is cooked out in store bought. I have mabye a 2
gallon cooker [ I used to use it as a Still for my home made rice
wine]  and throw in 3-4 chickens of just bones, 4 cups brown rice [its
cheaper and has 3 times the nutrients of white], 4 cups pinto beans
and leftovers of meat. 45 minutes, let it cool for hours and the bones
have mostly disapeared into minerals. You can get percentages of what
vets feel are a good carb, protein, fat ratios even on dog food bags.
But I asked my vet one of the best I know and he agreed what I cook is
good. I guess the real benefit is chicken bones used to go in the
garbage, and beans and brown rice are cheap. You can add anything even
meat and it will still cost less and be better than store bought. But
I add dry food for feeding, Its work to cook everything for several
dogs. When Melamine was in dog food March 07 I think I cooked over
100lb one day, that was a bit much to freeze.

Posted by Ulysses on March 15, 2009, 2:57 am
 

You dont know what is in dog food you buy like with the Chinese
Melamine poison of 07. What you get isnt the nutricious parts of
products and nutrition is cooked out in store bought. I have mabye a 2
gallon cooker [ I used to use it as a Still for my home made rice
wine]  and throw in 3-4 chickens of just bones, 4 cups brown rice [its
cheaper and has 3 times the nutrients of white], 4 cups pinto beans
and leftovers of meat. 45 minutes, let it cool for hours and the bones
have mostly disapeared into minerals. You can get percentages of what
vets feel are a good carb, protein, fat ratios even on dog food bags.
But I asked my vet one of the best I know and he agreed what I cook is
good. I guess the real benefit is chicken bones used to go in the
garbage, and beans and brown rice are cheap. You can add anything even
meat and it will still cost less and be better than store bought. But
I add dry food for feeding, Its work to cook everything for several
dogs. When Melamine was in dog food March 07 I think I cooked over
100lb one day, that was a bit much to freeze.

Thanks.  I think brown rice is only available in small bags around here just
like most beans and dried peas etc.  The only stiff I can find in quantities
is white rice and pintos.  I'm thinking that I should try the Mexican
martkets for fresher pintos.  The trouble is they don't seem to want gringos
in their stores, judging from the Spanish-only ads.  That might explain why
so many are going out of business.  One of those giant Home Depot grocery
stores is supposed to be coming here soon and they advertise large
quantities so we'll see.

So, you basically roast a chicken and whatever is left goes into the dog
food pot?  And you are talking pressure cooker, right?  I make my chicken
stew with potatoes, chicken breasts, carrots, and onion.  And some brocolli
stems if I have some.  I've heard that onions are bad for dogs but it never
seemed to hurt them any.  The dogs love the stew and they also love roast
carrots and potatoes.  One of my dogs is getting old and losing weight so a
little more fat in her diet probably won't hurt.  She's waiting right now
for some left-over roast potatoes.



Posted by Ken Maltby on March 14, 2009, 6:10 am
 

A pot is to slow, 45 minutes in a pressure cooker does mine all the
time. I cant think you would need more than 1 hr. Think of the money
you will save cooking with a pressure cooker instead of running the
stove in summer, all day, when its hot out.  Then I make dog food, all
chicken bones, beans and brown rice are cooked for 45 minutes. Chicken
bones come out soft.

 --------------------

 While I think this thread is wildly off topic for this NG,
it does no harm and isn't selling anything so what the heck?
( I was really wondering if it was somehow related to
methane production for "alt.energy.homepower", at first.)

  I also have a vast supply of Pinto Beans as storage food,
(I do live in San Antonio, after all), and both the pressure
cooker and the baking soda trick have been a fact of life
around here, for as long as I can remember.  One new thing
that this generation has supplied is the microwave pressure
cooker;
http://www.chefscorner.com/1/1/13893-nordic-ware-microwave-tender-cooker.html

 This works great in under 20 minutes.

   I cook rice in a smaller version of the cooker called
"Micro Rice", in 11 minutes. It works for beans too, but
you can't find them any more.  They are made out of a
heavy duty composite material, not your normal plastic.
( I have read that the current Nordicware Microwave
Rice Cooker is made of a plastic material, though.)

  What's so cool about these cookers is that they work
so fast and easily.  It takes so long to get my regular
full sized pressure cooker out, setup and up to temp.,
that it spends its time on the floor of the pantry, between
the rare, really big jobs.

 Luck;
     Ken
 



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