Posted by john on July 2, 2008, 7:55 pm
From what I think I know about Diesel engines, they will burn just
about any oil you can get into the cylinder. I have heard stories from
old timers about "run-away-Diesels" aboard ship that would start sucking
the lubrication oil and burn it.
Has anyone here tried or know of any sources of info concerning either
making Diesel fuel from other cheaper types of ols or using them as a
mixer with Diesel to lessen costs. (Mfg warranty has been gone for
years...) With new or used engine oil, trany fluid, fast-food oil, etc.
does anything have to be done other than filtering it and adjusting the
viscosity (ad a little lighter weight oil in...) (Allegedly Rudolf
Diesel's engine first ran on vegetable oil until vegetable oil was
supplanted by a cheap byproduct of gasoline production...)
Thanks
john
Posted by Eeyore on July 2, 2008, 11:44 pm
john wrote:
> From what I think I know about Diesel engines, they will burn just
> about any oil you can get into the cylinder. I have heard stories from
> old timers about "run-away-Diesels" aboard ship that would start sucking
> the lubrication oil and burn it.
> Has anyone here tried or know of any sources of info concerning either
> making Diesel fuel from other cheaper types of ols or using them as a
> mixer with Diesel to lessen costs. (Mfg warranty has been gone for
> years...) With new or used engine oil, trany fluid, fast-food oil, etc.
> does anything have to be done other than filtering it and adjusting the
> viscosity (ad a little lighter weight oil in...) (Allegedly Rudolf
> Diesel's engine first ran on vegetable oil until vegetable oil was
> supplanted by a cheap byproduct of gasoline production...)
I do believe that some large marine diesels may even power themselves from
the crude oil they are carrying.
Graham
Posted by Bruce in Bangkok on July 4, 2008, 12:20 am
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:44:41 +0100, Eeyore
>john wrote:
>> From what I think I know about Diesel engines, they will burn just
>> about any oil you can get into the cylinder. I have heard stories from
>> old timers about "run-away-Diesels" aboard ship that would start sucking
>> the lubrication oil and burn it.
>>
>> Has anyone here tried or know of any sources of info concerning either
>> making Diesel fuel from other cheaper types of ols or using them as a
>> mixer with Diesel to lessen costs. (Mfg warranty has been gone for
>> years...) With new or used engine oil, trany fluid, fast-food oil, etc.
>> does anything have to be done other than filtering it and adjusting the
>> viscosity (ad a little lighter weight oil in...) (Allegedly Rudolf
>> Diesel's engine first ran on vegetable oil until vegetable oil was
>> supplanted by a cheap byproduct of gasoline production...)
>I do believe that some large marine diesels may even power themselves from
>the crude oil they are carrying.
>Graham
Possible but probably not common as crude oil varies widely in
viscosity and may contain unwanted substances like sulphur.
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)
Posted by Eeyore on July 2, 2008, 11:56 pm
Bob F wrote:
> > From what I think I know about Diesel engines, they will burn just about any
> > oil you can get into the cylinder. I have heard stories from old timers
about
> > "run-away-Diesels" aboard ship that would start sucking the lubrication oil
> > and burn it.
> >
> > Has anyone here tried or know of any sources of info concerning either making
> > Diesel fuel from other cheaper types of ols or using them as a mixer with
> > Diesel to lessen costs. (Mfg warranty has been gone for years...) With new
> > or used engine oil, trany fluid, fast-food oil, etc. does anything have to be
> > done other than filtering it and adjusting the viscosity (ad a little lighter
> > weight oil in...) (Allegedly Rudolf Diesel's engine first ran on vegetable
> > oil until vegetable oil was supplanted by a cheap byproduct of gasoline
> > production...)
> >
> Ever hear of "google"?
Or wikipedia ?
Graham
Posted by Ulysses on July 3, 2008, 7:17 pm
> From what I think I know about Diesel engines, they will burn just
> about any oil you can get into the cylinder. I have heard stories from
> old timers about "run-away-Diesels" aboard ship that would start sucking
> the lubrication oil and burn it.
> Has anyone here tried or know of any sources of info concerning either
> making Diesel fuel from other cheaper types of ols or using them as a
> mixer with Diesel to lessen costs. (Mfg warranty has been gone for
> years...) With new or used engine oil, trany fluid, fast-food oil, etc.
> does anything have to be done other than filtering it and adjusting the
> viscosity (ad a little lighter weight oil in...) (Allegedly Rudolf
> Diesel's engine first ran on vegetable oil until vegetable oil was
> supplanted by a cheap byproduct of gasoline production...)
> Thanks
> john
According to a couple of guys at Auto Zone on different occasions all that
used motor oil they collect goes down to the dock where they burn it in
diesel-powered ships. I don't know how accurate this info is but if you
live any place that's convenient to get to it ought to be pretty easy to get
people to bring you the oil instead of the auto parts store. AZ is rather
fussy about what kind of container the oil is in supposedly due to possible
contamination by water so you might not want to let people dump the oil in
your container themselves.
The biggest problem I foresee would be people dropping off anti-freeze and
trans fluid and other stuff that's difficult to get rid of.
AZ used to pay something like 8 cents/gallon for used oil so I would think
you could probably get them to sell it to you for a fraction of the price of
diesel fuel.
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> about any oil you can get into the cylinder. I have heard stories from
> old timers about "run-away-Diesels" aboard ship that would start sucking
> the lubrication oil and burn it.
> Has anyone here tried or know of any sources of info concerning either
> making Diesel fuel from other cheaper types of ols or using them as a
> mixer with Diesel to lessen costs. (Mfg warranty has been gone for
> years...) With new or used engine oil, trany fluid, fast-food oil, etc.
> does anything have to be done other than filtering it and adjusting the
> viscosity (ad a little lighter weight oil in...) (Allegedly Rudolf
> Diesel's engine first ran on vegetable oil until vegetable oil was
> supplanted by a cheap byproduct of gasoline production...)