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Posted by vaughn on October 13, 2009, 9:55 pm
 




My elementry school shop class was among my most valuable experiences there.
Yes, we built birdhouses and bookends, but Mr. Teede also taught us how to
fix toilets & faucets, how to wire outlets, how to paint, and all other
sorts of every-day handy things.  Too bad they don't do that any more.


Nope!  Too late.

Vaughn




Posted by Jim Wilkins on October 13, 2009, 11:49 pm
 


wrote:

Before we could touch the power tools we learned how to joint, file
and set a handsaw and the art of sharpening and adjusting planes, then
how to plane straight and square enough to pass the light bulb test.
That was long before Ritalin.

jsw

Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on October 14, 2009, 3:19 pm
 

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:55:43 -0400, "vaughn"


Wow, that brings back memories. Among my projects I remember making a
gruesome plexiglass desk lamp, which included the strain-relief knot
that seemed to be the most important lesson :-) of grade school
lamp-building. Seems quaint now, but what a loss that practical stuff
is such a low priority these days. I suppose the idea was that kids
would grow up to earn such big bucks they'd be able to afford to pay
an expert <snorf> to change their faucet washers etc. Holy crap, does
that ever seem shortsighted in light of 50% unemployment of young
folks. When I was a kid I'd hang out with anybody who'd let me in
their shop. Now a guy would have to be braver than Lenny Bruce to let
a neighbor kid in his shop. I blame every last person who ever uttered
the words "Don't do that, you might get sued", or "Blue fingernail?
You can get thousands for that". What a friggin mess. Perhaps the
recession/depression will cause people to rediscover the advantage of
doing for themselves, and accept the reality that everyone pays for
lawsuits and overreaching. Probably not though. I think we're going to
see a lot more of this
instead.

Wayne


Posted by Morris Dovey on October 13, 2009, 10:14 pm
 

David O'Daniel wrote:


I don't remember his name, but he's been licensed to build "experimental
homes" - IIRC, he had some good ideas.


Hmm. I had no shop class in school and spent a whole career twiddling
ones and zeros.

    www.iedu.com/mrd/mrd_res1.html for evidence

I'm proof that you can learn whatever you decide to learn, and that if
you're determined enough, you can build about anything you can fully
specify.

    http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/

But be careful what you wish for... :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html

Posted by harry on October 14, 2009, 6:41 pm
 

On Oct 13, 10:09 pm, Bojut...@webtv.net (David O'Daniel) wrote:

I have a solar home.  Basically, massive insulation, big windows to
the South,  small on the North and insulated doors and shutters.
There is no heating plant except for one very small wood stove.  But
our Winters are not that cold here.  I have a solar panel for hot
water.  Homemade, works well, five hours of sunshine give water too
hot too keep your hand in.  Enough for two baths. Me and the wife.
Needless to say CFLs & water harvesting..
I looked into PV panels but the economics are right out of the window
just now.  For the present I watch out for the prices and our gov.
policy.   (Herefordshire, UK)

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