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Posted by SJC on January 3, 2006, 12:15 am

  Here is a published opinion about tanks and seals.

" I doubt you will find anyone making a conversion kit for E85 fuel. Alcohol
is highly corrosive so you would have to replace most, if not all, of your
present fuel system. You would most likely need a new fuel tank, fuel pump,
injectors and all the fuel lines, that would be expensive enough. But you
will also need a new ECU that is reprogrammed to provide the correct fuel
delivery with E85 fuel. Alcohol fuels require twice the volume of fuel as
compared to gasoline. If someone were to make a conversion kit for E85 fuel
it would also have to be tested by the EPA to ensure that the vehicle would
still meet the emission requirements for that year vehicle. The testing is
expensive and the manufacturer of the kit would have to pay for it all.

If you really want to run E85 you would be better off just to buy a flex
fuel vehicle. "


Posted by Harmon Seaver on January 3, 2006, 4:27 pm

SJC wrote:

    Yeah, I saw that awhile back when I was googling  -- I don't think
the guy has a clue what he is talking about. "twice the volume"????
"highly corrosive"???? Nonsense. It eats some types of rubber, yes, but
does zilch to steel and copper. If it were so corrosive, it would eat
your innards when you drink it as well.
    There is a tremendous amount of mis-information around about ethanol
-- put out by Big Oil, I think. The anti-ethanol plant people here had a
website up when they were trying to stop the plant from being built --
it had all this nonsense about what a deadly poison ethanol was. When I
confronted them about it, they actually did not know that ethanol is
what is in beer, wine, etc. Seriously bizarre. In fact they refused to
believe me. Duh!

Posted by Harmon Seaver on January 3, 2006, 4:53 pm

    BTW, there is at least one E85 conversion kit already being sold --
it was too expensive for my pocketbook, but ...


SJC wrote:

Posted by SJC on January 3, 2006, 6:00 pm

    Here is a place that sells conversion kits, but nothing for Toyota.

    Here the E85 group makes some good points about EPA regulations.

    Here Wikipedia gives some good basic information on E85.

    I am a supporter of cellulose ethanol. If Iogen and others can
    build plants, we can use the corn stalks and have the corn too.

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