Posted by harry on March 20, 2009, 8:30 pm
wrote:
> cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> > >cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> > >> >harry wrote:
> > >> >> Also, threewheeled cars can inherently be made to outperform four
> > >> >> wheeled cars.
> > >> >What a curious staement.
> > >> 3 wheelers are inherently more stable as the suspension does not
> > >> require any compliance to keep all wheels on the ground - like a
> > >> tripod.
> > >REAL 3 wheelers are notorious for INstability.
> > >Forget it. If it was true you'd see race cars made that way.
> > Single front wheell cars are inherently instable. Single rear wheel
> > is a totally different driving experience.
> I think they are a little better but as everyday cars rather than
> curiosities they aren't going to score very well. Besides, rolling losses
> aren't the huge energy absorber anyway. The most stable car is one with a
> wheel at each corner, 4 of them.
> Graham
Quite wrong!
Posted by Johnny B Good on March 21, 2009, 3:26 am
The message
> wrote:
> > cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> > > >cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> > > >> >harry wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> Also, threewheeled cars can inherently be made to outperform four
> > > >> >> wheeled cars.
> >
> > > >> >What a curious staement.
> >
> > > >> 3 wheelers are inherently more stable as the suspension does not
> > > >> require any compliance to keep all wheels on the ground - like a
> > > >> tripod.
> >
> > > >REAL 3 wheelers are notorious for INstability.
> >
> > > >Forget it. If it was true you'd see race cars made that way.
> >
> > > Single front wheell cars are inherently instable. Single rear wheel
> > > is a totally different driving experience.
> >
> > I think they are a little better but as everyday cars rather than
> > curiosities they aren't going to score very well. Besides, rolling losses
> > aren't the huge energy absorber anyway. The most stable car is one with a
> > wheel at each corner, 4 of them.
> >
> > Graham
> Quite wrong!
Not really. There's no doubt that a four wheel car is more stable than
any three wheeled car, hence my advice to get to know what the two
wheeled handling characteristic is like as soon as you can do so in
circumstances of your own choosing.
Unless you're familiar with a three wheeler's two wheel handling
characteristic, you're going to be a danger, both to yourself (and any
passengers) as well as to other road users.
Once you've (safely) acquired this two wheeled skill, you'll be much
better placed to both avoid such two wheeled modes of operation and how
best to handle it in the event of a road emergency that might demand a
two wheeled manouver (and, more importantly, to know when such a
manouver is simply not an option).
Any driver of a three wheeler who doesn't have any experience of its
two wheel handling is an accident waiting to happen.
--
Regards, John.
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Posted by harry on March 21, 2009, 7:40 pm
wrote:
> The message
> > wrote:
> > > cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> > > > >cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> > > > >> >harry wrote:
> > > > >> >> Also, threewheeled cars can inherently be made to outperform four
> > > > >> >> wheeled cars.
> > > > >> >What a curious staement.
> > > > >> 3 wheelers are inherently more stable as the suspension does not
> > > > >> require any compliance to keep all wheels on the ground - like a
> > > > >> tripod.
> > > > >REAL 3 wheelers are notorious for INstability.
> > > > >Forget it. If it was true you'd see race cars made that way.
> > > > Single front wheell cars are inherently instable. Single rear wheel
> > > > is a totally different driving experience.
> > > I think they are a little better but as everyday cars rather than
> > > curiosities they aren't going to score very well. Besides, rolling losses
> > > aren't the huge energy absorber anyway. The most stable car is one with a
> > > wheel at each corner, 4 of them.
> > > Graham
> > Quite wrong!
> Not really. There's no doubt that a four wheel car is more stable than
> any three wheeled car, hence my advice to get to know what the two
> wheeled handling characteristic is like as soon as you can do so in
> circumstances of your own choosing.
> Unless you're familiar with a three wheeler's two wheel handling
> characteristic, you're going to be a danger, both to yourself (and any
> passengers) as well as to other road users.
> Once you've (safely) acquired this two wheeled skill, you'll be much
> better placed to both avoid such two wheeled modes of operation and how
> best to handle it in the event of a road emergency that might demand a
> two wheeled manouver (and, more importantly, to know when such a
> manouver is simply not an option).
> Any driver of a three wheeler who doesn't have any experience of its
> two wheel handling is an accident waiting to happen.
> --
> Regards, John.
> Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying.
> The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots.
A real three wheeler has two wheels at the front. The Reliant Regal/
Robin & Bond bug were pretty useless. the reason they existed was
economics and space reasons inside the vehicle.
http://www.bra-cars.com/html/stability.html
http//www.3-wheelers.com
Posted by Tim Jackson on March 21, 2009, 9:28 pm
harry wrote:
>
> A real three wheeler has two wheels at the front. The Reliant Regal/
> Robin & Bond bug were pretty useless. the reason they existed was
> economics and space reasons inside the vehicle.
> http://www.bra-cars.com/html/stability.html
> http//www.3-wheelers.com
The reason they existed was I believe mostly to take advantage of the
way the UK tax, insurance and licensing classes were draughted at the
time. Three wheelers were generally classed as motorcycles and could be
driven by 16-year olds. The total cost of ownership was significantly
lower than a four-wheeler of the same purchase ticket price.
Tim Jackson
Posted by Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's n on March 25, 2009, 1:50 am
> wrote:
>> The message
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>> > > cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> > > > >cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> > > > >> >harry wrote:
>>
>> > > > >> >> Also, threewheeled cars can inherently be made to outperform
>> > > > >> >> four
>> > > > >> >> wheeled cars.
>>
>> > > > >> >What a curious staement.
>>
>> > > > >> 3 wheelers are inherently more stable as the suspension does not
>> > > > >> require any compliance to keep all wheels on the ground - like a
>> > > > >> tripod.
>>
>> > > > >REAL 3 wheelers are notorious for INstability.
>>
>> > > > >Forget it. If it was true you'd see race cars made that way.
>>
>> > > > Single front wheell cars are inherently instable. Single rear
>> > > > wheel
>> > > > is a totally different driving experience.
>>
>> > > I think they are a little better but as everyday cars rather than
>> > > curiosities they aren't going to score very well. Besides, rolling
>> > > losses
>> > > aren't the huge energy absorber anyway. The most stable car is one
>> > > with a
>> > > wheel at each corner, 4 of them.
>>
>> > > Graham
>> > Quite wrong!
>>
>> Not really. There's no doubt that a four wheel car is more stable than
>> any three wheeled car, hence my advice to get to know what the two
>> wheeled handling characteristic is like as soon as you can do so in
>> circumstances of your own choosing.
>>
>> Unless you're familiar with a three wheeler's two wheel handling
>> characteristic, you're going to be a danger, both to yourself (and any
>> passengers) as well as to other road users.
>>
>> Once you've (safely) acquired this two wheeled skill, you'll be much
>> better placed to both avoid such two wheeled modes of operation and how
>> best to handle it in the event of a road emergency that might demand a
>> two wheeled manouver (and, more importantly, to know when such a
>> manouver is simply not an option).
>>
>> Any driver of a three wheeler who doesn't have any experience of its
>> two wheel handling is an accident waiting to happen.
>>
>> --
>> Regards, John.
>>
>> Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying.
>> The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots.
> A real three wheeler has two wheels at the front.
I've always been partial to the motorcycle/Bug crossbreed, the Tri-Magnum:
http://jalopnik.com/cars/kit-cars/foam-on-the-frame-trimagnum-threewheeler-kit-121298.php
I paticularly liked the accounts of the drivers trying to find the delicate
balance between stalling it and leaving a 100 foot strip of rubber. :-)
LG
--
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> > >cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> > >> >harry wrote:
> > >> >> Also, threewheeled cars can inherently be made to outperform four
> > >> >> wheeled cars.
> > >> >What a curious staement.
> > >> 3 wheelers are inherently more stable as the suspension does not
> > >> require any compliance to keep all wheels on the ground - like a
> > >> tripod.
> > >REAL 3 wheelers are notorious for INstability.
> > >Forget it. If it was true you'd see race cars made that way.
> > Single front wheell cars are inherently instable. Single rear wheel
> > is a totally different driving experience.
> I think they are a little better but as everyday cars rather than
> curiosities they aren't going to score very well. Besides, rolling losses
> aren't the huge energy absorber anyway. The most stable car is one with a
> wheel at each corner, 4 of them.
> Graham