Posted by Moe on September 4, 2007, 4:54 am
Power to the People: Run Your House on a Prius
During a recent six-hour power failure, Mr. Factor estimated that his
2005 Prius used less than one gallon of gasoline.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/automobiles/02POWER.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Posted by Daniel Who Wants to Know on September 4, 2007, 3:12 pm
> Power to the People: Run Your House on a Prius
> During a recent six-hour power failure, Mr. Factor estimated that his 2005
> Prius used less than one gallon of gasoline.
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/automobiles/02POWER.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
As I wrote in the Toyota Newsgroup when "Jeff" posted this:
This is not new news to me as I have known for months that this is possible
and I don't even own one. You can also pull about 1kw from the 12v bus
continuously as long as the car is in "READY" mode.
Posted by RW Salnick on September 4, 2007, 3:24 pm
Daniel Who Wants to Know brought forth on stone tablets:
>
>>Power to the People: Run Your House on a Prius
>>During a recent six-hour power failure, Mr. Factor estimated that his 2005
>>Prius used less than one gallon of gasoline.
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/automobiles/02POWER.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
>
>
> As I wrote in the Toyota Newsgroup when "Jeff" posted this:
>
> This is not new news to me as I have known for months that this is possible
> and I don't even own one. You can also pull about 1kw from the 12v bus
> continuously as long as the car is in "READY" mode.
>
>
... and I can pull approximately 1.3 KW from the 12V bus continuously in
my 1985 TransAm (100 amp alternator), as long as it is in "Ready" mode.
In fact, one can pull about 1.7 KW from the 12V bus in *any* car
equipped with a 130 amp alternator.
Posted by Daniel Who Wants to Know on September 4, 2007, 4:29 pm
> Daniel Who Wants to Know brought forth on stone tablets:
>>
>>>Power to the People: Run Your House on a Prius
>>>During a recent six-hour power failure, Mr. Factor estimated that his
>>>2005 Prius used less than one gallon of gasoline.
>>>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/automobiles/02POWER.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
>>
>>
>> As I wrote in the Toyota Newsgroup when "Jeff" posted this:
>>
>> This is not new news to me as I have known for months that this is
>> possible
>> and I don't even own one. You can also pull about 1kw from the 12v bus
>> continuously as long as the car is in "READY" mode.
> ... and I can pull approximately 1.3 KW from the 12V bus continuously in
> my 1985 TransAm (100 amp alternator), as long as it is in "Ready" mode. In
> fact, one can pull about 1.7 KW from the 12V bus in *any* car equipped
> with a 130 amp alternator.
The Difference is that the output of alternators depends on engine speed and
that to provide full power continuously the car would have to at least be at
high idle. Also most alternators on cars will overheat and burn out if
asked to provide full rated amperage for very long. To get full output for
hours instead of minutes would require a truck or ambulance alternator that
was designed for a 100% duty cycle. Also to provide that output the engine
would have to be on at all times just to spin it which would use lots of
gas. The Prius OTOH doesn't have an alternator, it has a liquid cooled 100
amp dc-dc converter which uses the HV bus to supply the 12v bus. Because of
this not only will it provide the full output until the car runs out of gas
but since the engine only cycles on a few times an hour to recharge the
traction battery it would consume less gas for the same output which means
more time between refills.
Posted by sno on September 4, 2007, 4:40 pm
Daniel Who Wants to Know wrote:
>
> > Daniel Who Wants to Know brought forth on stone tablets:
> >>
> >>>Power to the People: Run Your House on a Prius
> >>>During a recent six-hour power failure, Mr. Factor estimated that his
> >>>2005 Prius used less than one gallon of gasoline.
>
>>>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/automobiles/02POWER.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
> >>
> >>
> >> As I wrote in the Toyota Newsgroup when "Jeff" posted this:
> >>
> >> This is not new news to me as I have known for months that this is
> >> possible
> >> and I don't even own one. You can also pull about 1kw from the 12v bus
> >> continuously as long as the car is in "READY" mode.
> >
> >
> > ... and I can pull approximately 1.3 KW from the 12V bus continuously in
> > my 1985 TransAm (100 amp alternator), as long as it is in "Ready" mode. In
> > fact, one can pull about 1.7 KW from the 12V bus in *any* car equipped
> > with a 130 amp alternator.
> >
>
> The Difference is that the output of alternators depends on engine speed and
> that to provide full power continuously the car would have to at least be at
> high idle. Also most alternators on cars will overheat and burn out if
> asked to provide full rated amperage for very long. To get full output for
> hours instead of minutes would require a truck or ambulance alternator that
> was designed for a 100% duty cycle. Also to provide that output the engine
> would have to be on at all times just to spin it which would use lots of
> gas. The Prius OTOH doesn't have an alternator, it has a liquid cooled 100
> amp dc-dc converter which uses the HV bus to supply the 12v bus. Because of
> this not only will it provide the full output until the car runs out of gas
> but since the engine only cycles on a few times an hour to recharge the
> traction battery it would consume less gas for the same output which means
> more time between refills.
Hmmmmm....wonder if could take a wrecked prius and hook it up through
an inverter.....and disconnect from the grid....would have to work
out gallons per kw/h.....and how long could expect to last before
rebuild/replacement.....does anyone have any efficiency numbers...???
have fun......sno
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> During a recent six-hour power failure, Mr. Factor estimated that his 2005
> Prius used less than one gallon of gasoline.
>