Posted by linnix on October 29, 2011, 2:56 pm
> On Oct 28, 10:58am, Spehro Pefhany
> > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:37:50 -0700 (PDT), linnix
> > >> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
> > >> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
> > >> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
> > >> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
> > >> (Launtop powered):
> > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
> > >> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
> > >> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
> > >> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
> > >> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
> > >> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
> > >> This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:
> > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg
> > >> I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.
> > >> This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
> > >> nuts with.
> > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg
> > >> Care to guess where they were made?
> > >> This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
> > >> different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
> > >> ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.
> > >> The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
> > >> are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
> > >> Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
> > >> conveniently out of business.
> > >>http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft
> > >> Don't buy Chinese.
> > >or American
> > >Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
> > >I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
> > >Where are the Germans and Japaneses?
> > Honda is pretty good, but you're going to pay more. A good Honda 4000W
> > generator is maybe $,200 vs. Harbor Fright's $39 for 3500W and $99
> > for 5,500W. "Sportsman" has a 4000W one for $29.
> Residential Standby Generators
> Rated 200 AMP Whole House
They are Generac reseller. These are for standby only. Don't ever
try to use them, stupid (customers).
Funny math and science:
Greek: 50% default is not a default. We can cut another 50% of the
remaining debts, and do it again and again, etc.
French: China will give us 100B, we can increase it with deflector
shields and reflective multipler by 100x. It's not smoke and mirror.
World debt problems are over.
Germany: We can pull in several more China from other Universes.
Problem solved.
Generac: There are less than 200 hours in a two-years (730 days)
warranty.
Posted by RHF on October 29, 2011, 9:47 pm
> > On Oct 28, 10:58am, Spehro Pefhany
> > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:37:50 -0700 (PDT), linnix
> > > >> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
> > > >> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
> > > >> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
> > > >> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
> > > >> (Launtop powered):
> > > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
> > > >> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
> > > >> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
> > > >> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
> > > >> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
> > > >> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
> > > >> This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:
> > > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg
> > > >> I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.
> > > >> This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
> > > >> nuts with.
> > > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg
> > > >> Care to guess where they were made?
> > > >> This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
> > > >> different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
> > > >> ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.
> > > >> The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
> > > >> are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
> > > >> Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
> > > >> conveniently out of business.
> > > >>http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft
> > > >> Don't buy Chinese.
> > > >or American
> > > >Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
> > > >I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
> > > >Where are the Germans and Japaneses?
> > > Honda is pretty good, but you're going to pay more. A good Honda 4000W
> > > generator is maybe $,200 vs. Harbor Fright's $39 for 3500W and $99
> > > for 5,500W. "Sportsman" has a 4000W one for $29.
> > Residential Standby Generators
> > Rated 200 AMP Whole House
- They are Generac reseller.
NAH they have Kohler and Briggs & Stratton too...
- These are for standby only.
-Don't ever try to use them, stupid (customers).
Normally 24/7/365 we have Gas and Electric; plus
a Solar 11 KW System -so- 'Standby' is good :o)
.
Next-Up here is a Water Driven Turbine for
24/7/365 Electric Power
Have to Creeks : One with a 30 Foot Drop
and Rated at 50% of Flow Using a 4 Inch Pipe;
and #2 with a 15 Foot Drop and Rated at
50% of Flow Using a 2 Inch Pipe;
.
another
> Funny math and science:
> Greek: 50% default is not a default. We can cut another 50% of the
> remaining debts, and do it again and again, etc.
> French: China will give us 100B, we can increase it with deflector
> shields and reflective multipler by 100x. It's not smoke and mirror.
> World debt problems are over.
> Germany: We can pull in several more China from other Universes.
> Problem solved.
> Generac: There are less than 200 hours in a two-years (730 days)
> warranty.
Posted by vaughn on October 29, 2011, 10:17 pm
>Have to Creeks : One with a 30 Foot Drop
>and Rated at 50% of Flow Using a 4 Inch Pipe;
>and #2 with a 15 Foot Drop and Rated at
>50% of Flow Using a 2 Inch Pipe;
Lucky man
.
Vaughn
Posted by Jamie on October 28, 2011, 10:41 pm
linnix wrote:
>
>>I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
>>year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
>>continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
>>
>>This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
>>(Launtop powered):
>>
>>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
>>
>>The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
>>boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
>>terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
>>wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
>>contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
>>
>>This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:
>>
>>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg
>>
>>I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.
>>
>>This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
>>nuts with.
>>
>>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg
>>
>>Care to guess where they were made?
>>
>>This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
>>different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
>>ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.
>>
>>The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
>>are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
>>Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
>>conveniently out of business.
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft
>>
>>Don't buy Chinese.
>
>
> or American
>
> Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
> I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
>
> Where are the Germans and Japaneses?
I have a Honda ..
Jamie
Posted by Rich Grise on October 29, 2011, 11:36 pm
linnix wrote:
>>
>> The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
>> are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
>> Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
>> conveniently out of business.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft
>>
>> Don't buy Chinese.
>
> or American
>
> Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
> I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
>
> Where are the Germans and Japaneses?
They've been unionized/socialized and so can't afford to produce anything,
just like the US.
Cheers!
Rich
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> > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:37:50 -0700 (PDT), linnix
> > >> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
> > >> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
> > >> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
> > >> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
> > >> (Launtop powered):
> > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
> > >> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
> > >> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
> > >> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
> > >> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
> > >> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
> > >> This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:
> > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg
> > >> I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.
> > >> This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
> > >> nuts with.
> > >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg
> > >> Care to guess where they were made?
> > >> This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
> > >> different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
> > >> ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.
> > >> The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
> > >> are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
> > >> Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
> > >> conveniently out of business.
> > >>http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft
> > >> Don't buy Chinese.
> > >or American
> > >Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
> > >I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
> > >Where are the Germans and Japaneses?
> > Honda is pretty good, but you're going to pay more. A good Honda 4000W
> > generator is maybe $,200 vs. Harbor Fright's $39 for 3500W and $99
> > for 5,500W. "Sportsman" has a 4000W one for $29.
> Residential Standby Generators
> Rated 200 AMP Whole House