Posted by D Peter Maus on October 28, 2011, 3:37 pm
On 10/28/11 10:23 , linnix wrote:
>> On 10/28/11 10:15 , linnix wrote:
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>>>> On 10/27/11 20:30 , m II wrote:
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>>>>> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
>>>>> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
>>>>> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with
'Stupid'.
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>>>>> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
>>>>> (Launtop powered):
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>>>>> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
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>>>>> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
>>>>> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
>>>>> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
>>>>> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
>>>>> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
>>
>>>> Yeah, I had a generator, this summer, throw a rod through the
>>>> garage wall. The finest Chinese machine work you'd ever like to see
>>>> punch a hole in a building.
>>
>>>> Went with a Generac from Whitewater, Wisconsin.-
>>
>>> The same company who made the generator that failed after 5 months.
>>> They won't honor the two years warrenty because i am over-using it
>>> (200 hours). It's a standby generator, i am not suppose to use it,
>>> stupid.
>>
>> Mine is a continuous service generator. So, it's built to a
>> different standard. A standby is a different animal.
>>
>> That said, you don't really get to pick when your power is out.
>> That distinction may be due for a revision
> But failed after 200 hours? That's less than two weeks of use.
True. Depending on maintenance, that should be a brisk walk for this
kind of product. Regardless of build.
How often did you change the oil? And did you do a break-in change?
That will make an enourmous difference.
Posted by linnix on October 28, 2011, 3:39 pm
> On 10/28/11 10:23 , linnix wrote:
> >> On 10/28/11 10:15 , linnix wrote:
> >>>> On 10/27/11 20:30 , m II wrote:
> >>>>> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
> >>>>> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
> >>>>> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
> >>>>> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
> >>>>> (Launtop powered):
> >>>>>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
> >>>>> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
> >>>>> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
> >>>>> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
> >>>>> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
> >>>>> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
> >>>> Yeah, I had a generator, this summer, throw a rod through the
> >>>> garage wall. The finest Chinese machine work you'd ever like to see
> >>>> punch a hole in a building.
> >>>> Went with a Generac from Whitewater, Wisconsin.-
> >>> The same company who made the generator that failed after 5 months.
> >>> They won't honor the two years warrenty because i am over-using it
> >>> (200 hours). It's a standby generator, i am not suppose to use it,
> >>> stupid.
> >> Mine is a continuous service generator. So, it's built to a
> >> different standard. A standby is a different animal.
> >> That said, you don't really get to pick when your power is out.
> >> That distinction may be due for a revision
> > But failed after 200 hours? That's less than two weeks of use.
> True. Depending on maintenance, that should be a brisk walk for this
> kind of product. Regardless of build.
> How often did you change the oil?
They says every 200 hours. I didn't know they mean changing the
machine every 200 hours.
> And did you do a break-in change?
Yes.
The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
Posted by D. Peter Maus on October 28, 2011, 6:15 pm
On 10/28/11 10:39 , linnix wrote:
>> On 10/28/11 10:23 , linnix wrote:
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>>>> On 10/28/11 10:15 , linnix wrote:
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>>>>>> On 10/27/11 20:30 , m II wrote:
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>>>>>>> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
>>>>>>> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
>>>>>>> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with
'Stupid'.
>>
>>>>>>> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
>>>>>>> (Launtop powered):
>>
>>>>>>> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
>>
>>>>>>> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
>>>>>>> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
>>>>>>> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
>>>>>>> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
>>>>>>> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I had a generator, this summer, throw a rod through the
>>>>>> garage wall. The finest Chinese machine work you'd ever like to see
>>>>>> punch a hole in a building.
>>
>>>>>> Went with a Generac from Whitewater, Wisconsin.-
>>
>>>>> The same company who made the generator that failed after 5 months.
>>>>> They won't honor the two years warrenty because i am over-using it
>>>>> (200 hours). It's a standby generator, i am not suppose to use it,
>>>>> stupid.
>>
>>>> Mine is a continuous service generator. So, it's built to a
>>>> different standard. A standby is a different animal.
>>
>>>> That said, you don't really get to pick when your power is out.
>>>> That distinction may be due for a revision
>>
>>> But failed after 200 hours? That's less than two weeks of use.
>>
>> True. Depending on maintenance, that should be a brisk walk for this
>> kind of product. Regardless of build.
>>
>> How often did you change the oil?
> They says every 200 hours. I didn't know they mean changing the
> machine every 200 hours.
Some generators are made for intermittent service, only. A few
hours on, many hours off. Too many hours on and metal fatigue sets in.
This is to accomodate a price point.
You may have, indeed, overrun the machine's ability to serve in a
continuous stretch.
>> And did you do a break-in change?
> Yes.
> The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
Posted by linnix on October 28, 2011, 6:42 pm
> On 10/28/11 10:39 , linnix wrote:
> >> On 10/28/11 10:23 , linnix wrote:
> >>>> On 10/28/11 10:15 , linnix wrote:
> >>>>>> On 10/27/11 20:30 , m II wrote:
> >>>>>>> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
> >>>>>>> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
> >>>>>>> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
> >>>>>>> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
> >>>>>>> (Launtop powered):
> >>>>>>>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
> >>>>>>> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
> >>>>>>> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
> >>>>>>> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
> >>>>>>> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
> >>>>>>> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
> >>>>>> Yeah, I had a generator, this summer, throw a rod through the
> >>>>>> garage wall. The finest Chinese machine work you'd ever like to see
> >>>>>> punch a hole in a building.
> >>>>>> Went with a Generac from Whitewater, Wisconsin.-
> >>>>> The same company who made the generator that failed after 5 months.
> >>>>> They won't honor the two years warrenty because i am over-using it
> >>>>> (200 hours). It's a standby generator, i am not suppose to use it,
> >>>>> stupid.
> >>>> Mine is a continuous service generator. So, it's built to a
> >>>> different standard. A standby is a different animal.
> >>>> That said, you don't really get to pick when your power is out.
> >>>> That distinction may be due for a revision
> >>> But failed after 200 hours? That's less than two weeks of use.
> >> True. Depending on maintenance, that should be a brisk walk for this
> >> kind of product. Regardless of build.
> >> How often did you change the oil?
> > They says every 200 hours. I didn't know they mean changing the
> > machine every 200 hours.
> Some generators are made for intermittent service, only. A few
> hours on, many hours off. Too many hours on and metal fatigue sets in.
> This is to accomodate a price point.ours
> You may have, indeed, overrun the machine's ability to serve in a
> continuous stretch.
What is the definition of power outage?
The only time it was on for more than 5 hours was during the 10 hours
Arizona power blockade of S.CA. Otherwise, i ran it for the pool pump
one or two hours every day or other day. It was 200 total hours, 100
cycles over 5 months. I did not know it was engineered to fail after
100 cycles and void the warrenty. By the way, i brought it from the
AZ dealer of Generac. I guess nothing good come out of AZ. Sorry,
had to rub it on JT.
Posted by D. Peter Maus on October 28, 2011, 7:57 pm
On 10/28/11 13:42 , linnix wrote:
>> On 10/28/11 10:39 , linnix wrote:
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>>>> On 10/28/11 10:23 , linnix wrote:
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>>>>>> On 10/28/11 10:15 , linnix wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On 10/27/11 20:30 , m II wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
>>>>>>>>> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
>>>>>>>>> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with
'Stupid'.
>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
>>>>>>>>> (Launtop powered):
>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
>>
>>>>>>>>> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
>>>>>>>>> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid
winding
>>>>>>>>> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
>>>>>>>>> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
>>>>>>>>> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, I had a generator, this summer, throw a rod through the
>>>>>>>> garage wall. The finest Chinese machine work you'd ever like to see
>>>>>>>> punch a hole in a building.
>>
>>>>>>>> Went with a Generac from Whitewater, Wisconsin.-
>>
>>>>>>> The same company who made the generator that failed after 5 months.
>>>>>>> They won't honor the two years warrenty because i am over-using it
>>>>>>> (200 hours). It's a standby generator, i am not suppose to use it,
>>>>>>> stupid.
>>
>>>>>> Mine is a continuous service generator. So, it's built to a
>>>>>> different standard. A standby is a different animal.
>>
>>>>>> That said, you don't really get to pick when your power is out.
>>>>>> That distinction may be due for a revision
>>
>>>>> But failed after 200 hours? That's less than two weeks of use.
>>
>>>> True. Depending on maintenance, that should be a brisk walk for this
>>>> kind of product. Regardless of build.
>>
>>>> How often did you change the oil?
>>
>>> They says every 200 hours. I didn't know they mean changing the
>>> machine every 200 hours.
>>
>> Some generators are made for intermittent service, only. A few
>> hours on, many hours off. Too many hours on and metal fatigue sets in.
>>
>> This is to accomodate a price point.ours
>>
>> You may have, indeed, overrun the machine's ability to serve in a
>> continuous stretch.
> What is the definition of power outage?
> The only time it was on for more than 5 hours was during the 10 hours
> Arizona power blockade of S.CA. Otherwise, i ran it for the pool pump
> one or two hours every day or other day. It was 200 total hours, 100
> cycles over 5 months. I did not know it was engineered to fail after
> 100 cycles and void the warrenty.
Well, it wasn't engineered to fail after 100 cycles. But it does
look like you've got a valid complaint.
You may want to take this higher up in the company. Satisfaction
is possible, if you're persistent enough. The local retailers often
count on the fact that most people aren't .
By the way, i brought it from the
> AZ dealer of Generac. I guess nothing good come out of AZ. Sorry,
> had to rub it on JT.
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>>>> On 10/27/11 20:30 , m II wrote:
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>>>>> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
>>>>> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
>>>>> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with