Posted by josephkk on November 1, 2011, 4:33 am
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:24:18 GMT, nico@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote:
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0You may have, indeed, overrun the machine's ability to serve in a
>>> continuous stretch.
>>
>>What is the definition of power outage?
>>
>>The only time it was on for more than 5 hours was during the 10 hours
>>Arizona power blockade of S.CA. Otherwise, i ran it for the pool pump
>>one or two hours every day or other day. It was 200 total hours, 100
>>cycles over 5 months. I did not know it was engineered to fail after
>>100 cycles and void the warrenty. By the way, i brought it from the
>>AZ dealer of Generac. I guess nothing good come out of AZ. Sorry,
>>had to rub it on JT.
>Perhaps it needed an oil change. 200 hours is equivalent to 16000
>miles for a car.
Don't know about you but i can hardly drive 80 mph all the time. I
average something more like 30 mph, not much freeway driving. Even with
freeways much of my driving is during "rush hour" and often not above 40
mph average.
?-)
Posted by T. Keating on October 29, 2011, 4:35 pm
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:15:01 -0700 (PDT), linnix
>> On 10/27/11 20:30 , m II wrote:
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>> > I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
>> > year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
>> > continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
>>
>> > This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
>> > (Launtop powered):
>>
>> >http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
>>
>> > The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
>> > boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
>> > terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
>> > wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
>> > contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
>>
>> Yeah, I had a generator, this summer, throw a rod through the
>> garage wall. The finest Chinese machine work you'd ever like to see
>> punch a hole in a building.
>>
>> Went with a Generac from Whitewater, Wisconsin.-
>The same company who made the generator that failed after 5 months.
>They won't honor the two years warrenty because i am over-using it
>(200 hours). It's a standby generator, i am not suppose to use it,
>stupid.
That's nothing.. I had a friend two blocks over.. newly installed
Generac standby. (propane).. throw a rod after operating for a just
few hours during Hurricane Wilma. It took them 8 days to get a
replacement motor. (their power was out for ~16 days)..
Meanwhile, My 2200 RPM 2.5Kw Diesel.. ran for 10(5 in am, 5 in pm)
hours a day for 13 days, no problem, finally used up most of my 6 year
old diesel fuel(~18 gallons).
>By the way, should I sue a WI company in Federal court? I don't think
>they registered in CA.
Posted by linnix on October 28, 2011, 3:37 pm
> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
> (Launtop powered):
> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
> This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:
> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg
> I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.
> This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
> nuts with.
> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg
> Care to guess where they were made?
> This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
> different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
> ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.
> The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
> are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
> Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
> conveniently out of business.
> http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft
> Don't buy Chinese.
or American
Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
Where are the Germans and Japaneses?
Posted by Spehro Pefhany on October 28, 2011, 5:58 pm
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:37:50 -0700 (PDT), linnix
>> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
>> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
>> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
>>
>> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
>> (Launtop powered):
>>
>> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
>>
>> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
>> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
>> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
>> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
>> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
>>
>> This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:
>>
>> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg
>>
>> I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.
>>
>> This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
>> nuts with.
>>
>> http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg
>>
>> Care to guess where they were made?
>>
>> This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
>> different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
>> ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.
>>
>> The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
>> are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
>> Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
>> conveniently out of business.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft
>>
>> Don't buy Chinese.
>or American
>Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
>I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
>Where are the Germans and Japaneses?
Honda is pretty good, but you're going to pay more. A good Honda 4000W
generator is maybe $,200 vs. Harbor Fright's $39 for 3500W and $99
for 5,500W. "Sportsman" has a 4000W one for $29.
Posted by linnix on October 28, 2011, 6:57 pm
On Oct 28, 10:58am, Spehro Pefhany
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:37:50 -0700 (PDT), linnix
> >> I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
> >> year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
> >> continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.
> >> This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
> >> (Launtop powered):
> >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg
> >> The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
> >> boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
> >> terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
> >> wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
> >> contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.
> >> This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:
> >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg
> >> I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.
> >> This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
> >> nuts with.
> >>http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg
> >> Care to guess where they were made?
> >> This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
> >> different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
> >> ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.
> >> The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
> >> are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
> >> Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
> >> conveniently out of business.
> >>http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft
> >> Don't buy Chinese.
> >or American
> >Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
> >I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.
> >Where are the Germans and Japaneses?
> Honda is pretty good, but you're going to pay more. A good Honda 4000W
> generator is maybe $,200 vs. Harbor Fright's $39 for 3500W and $99
> for 5,500W. "Sportsman" has a 4000W one for $29.
But i want to run on NG. I paid $700 for the Generac 8KW. Are there
conversion kits for NG?
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>>> =A0 =A0You may have, indeed, overrun the machine's ability to serve in a
>>> continuous stretch.
>>
>>What is the definition of power outage?
>>
>>The only time it was on for more than 5 hours was during the 10 hours
>>Arizona power blockade of S.CA. Otherwise, i ran it for the pool pump
>>one or two hours every day or other day. It was 200 total hours, 100
>>cycles over 5 months. I did not know it was engineered to fail after
>>100 cycles and void the warrenty. By the way, i brought it from the
>>AZ dealer of Generac. I guess nothing good come out of AZ. Sorry,
>>had to rub it on JT.
>Perhaps it needed an oil change. 200 hours is equivalent to 16000
>miles for a car.