Posted by Balanced View on October 22, 2007, 5:38 pm
Eeyore wrote:
> Chris Hill wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>> It looks like the batteries will end up lasting the life of
>>>> the vehicle as well, most of the time.
>>>>
>>> How long do you expect the vehicle to last ? That doesn't sound very likely
to me.
>>>
>> Ten years or 200,000 miles is good for a passenger car. I'd expect my
>> diesel truck to go longer, but I'm a lot more willing to throw parts
>> at it due to its price.
>>
> I'd be surprised if batteries are good for 200,000 mi. The standard lead-acid
battery
> in your car is a very mature product and isn't hugely stressed, yet needs
replacement
> several times in the car's lifetime. Try and fine one with more than a 3 yr
warranty
> for example.
> Graham
>
"According to Toyota, the life of the Prius battery pack is determined
more by mileage than by time, and it has been
tested to 180,000 miles. Supporting this are first- and
second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly
traveled more than 200,000 miles without suffering any battery problems".
Posted by Eeyore on October 23, 2007, 8:44 am
Balanced View wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Chris Hill wrote:
> >> Eeyore wrote:
> >>
> >>>> It looks like the batteries will end up lasting the life of
> >>>> the vehicle as well, most of the time.
> >>>>
> >>> How long do you expect the vehicle to last ? That doesn't sound very
likely to me.
> >>>
> >> Ten years or 200,000 miles is good for a passenger car. I'd expect my
> >> diesel truck to go longer, but I'm a lot more willing to throw parts
> >> at it due to its price.
> >
> > I'd be surprised if batteries are good for 200,000 mi. The standard
lead-acid battery
> > in your car is a very mature product and isn't hugely stressed, yet needs
replacement
> > several times in the car's lifetime. Try and fine one with more than a 3 yr
warranty
> > for example.
> "According to Toyota, the life of the Prius battery pack is determined
> more by mileage than by time, and it has been
> tested to 180,000 miles. Supporting this are first- and
> second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly
> traveled more than 200,000 miles without suffering any battery problems".
If that is typical performance then it's very impressive.
Graham
Posted by Balanced View on October 23, 2007, 1:52 pm
Eeyore wrote:
> Balanced View wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Hill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like the batteries will end up lasting the life of
>>>>>> the vehicle as well, most of the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> How long do you expect the vehicle to last ? That doesn't sound very
likely to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Ten years or 200,000 miles is good for a passenger car. I'd expect my
>>>> diesel truck to go longer, but I'm a lot more willing to throw parts
>>>> at it due to its price.
>>>>
>>> I'd be surprised if batteries are good for 200,000 mi. The standard
lead-acid battery
>>> in your car is a very mature product and isn't hugely stressed, yet needs
replacement
>>> several times in the car's lifetime. Try and fine one with more than a 3 yr
warranty
>>> for example.
>>>
>> "According to Toyota, the life of the Prius battery pack is determined
>> more by mileage than by time, and it has been
>> tested to 180,000 miles. Supporting this are first- and
>> second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly
>> traveled more than 200,000 miles without suffering any battery problems".
>>
> If that is typical performance then it's very impressive.
> Graham
>
What? Not impressive? I've been driving since 1970 and tend to keep my
cars longer than most* . I have never owned
a car with more than 160,000 miles on it that didn't need some costly
repair.
* Current vehicle is a 1998, 9 years old.
Posted by Eeyore on October 24, 2007, 7:20 am
Balanced View wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Balanced View wrote:
> >>
> >> "According to Toyota, the life of the Prius battery pack is determined
> >> more by mileage than by time, and it has been
> >> tested to 180,000 miles. Supporting this are first- and
> >> second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly
> >> traveled more than 200,000 miles without suffering any battery problems".
> >>
> >
> > If that is typical performance then it's very impressive.
> What? Not impressive? I've been driving since 1970 and tend to keep my
> cars longer than most* . I have never owned
> a car with more than 160,000 miles on it that didn't need some costly
> repair.
> * Current vehicle is a 1998, 9 years old.
My last car got to 180,000 mi without needing any serious repair and my current
Saab's most
costly 'repair' to date ( ~ 160,000 mi ) was a new exhaust system.
Graham
Posted by Balanced View on October 24, 2007, 9:45 am
Eeyore wrote:
> Balanced View wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>> Balanced View wrote:
>>>
>>>> "According to Toyota, the life of the Prius battery pack is determined
>>>> more by mileage than by time, and it has been
>>>> tested to 180,000 miles. Supporting this are first- and
>>>> second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly
>>>> traveled more than 200,000 miles without suffering any battery problems".
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If that is typical performance then it's very impressive.
>>>
>> What? Not impressive? I've been driving since 1970 and tend to keep my
>> cars longer than most* . I have never owned
>> a car with more than 160,000 miles on it that didn't need some costly
>> repair.
>>
>> * Current vehicle is a 1998, 9 years old.
>>
> My last car got to 180,000 mi without needing any serious repair and my
current Saab's most
> costly 'repair' to date ( ~ 160,000 mi ) was a new exhaust system.
> Graham
>
So in 160,000 miles you have not replaced a clutch, brakes, rotors, CV
joints ? I find that very strange. If you do all your
own wrenching and are obsessive about it you can make a vehicle last far
longer than average, eg I have a 1966 Ducati
that still runs fine. Does that prove that the majority of Italian
motorcycles last over 40 years? No, it just proves I spend way
more time than the average person would on maintenance.
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>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>> It looks like the batteries will end up lasting the life of
>>>> the vehicle as well, most of the time.
>>>>
>>> How long do you expect the vehicle to last ? That doesn't sound very likely