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Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on October 31, 2009, 2:29 pm


wmbjk wrote:

No, what others are routinely challenged for is quite different - for
posting nothing useful. By now I can see that your refusal to grasp
the distinction is willful.

My standards aren't binding on anyone, and your attempt to put those
words in my mouth makes it clear that I'm wasting my time trying to
get you to be reasonable. Obviously you'll do what you want, and so
will I. Which is, the next time you have a question that I can answer,
look for it here http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/tbfduwisdumb.htm .  


Posted by Joseoi on October 31, 2009, 4:00 pm

Thanks for such a useful post.

You have really enhanced the group with that post and your high standards.

Posted by ghio on October 31, 2009, 4:02 pm

On Nov 1, 1:29am, wmbjkREM...@citlink.net wrote:

For ten years or more wayne has tried to shut me up.

Why? Because he put up a Look at what I did website. Well I had a
look at this site, then asked wayne what he had in fact done. You see,
there were some pretty fanciful claims as to the performance of the
system wayne had set up.

On this site wayne claimed up to 30kWhs production with the further
claim that he could use all of that in a day. Unfortunately there was
no data as to what the individual loads were. When questioned about
the lack of this information wayne started waffling on about how his
system was so advanced that no one but himself could understand the
design.  This is of course a load of nonsense as all PV systems are
made up of pretty much the same items, panels, regulator, batteries
and inverters.

These items are all tied together in a system. There is a formula
which is used to determine the relationship between these items and
the load the system is expected to service.

Now, because wayne has no understanding of how his system performs and
can't tell anyone what his loads are, what his system produces or what
it uses he has tried to discredit me by posting his little hate site
http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/tbfduwisdumb.htm .

I strongly recommend visiting this site, it really is a hoot. What
really makes it funny is that wayne thinks it hurts me in some way. I
suppose that one day he will wake up and realise that for all the
years he has been running this site I have directed people to it.
After all it's not often that one can see such irrational rabid hatred
displayed in public.

Now he is set to try the same brand of blackmail on another person he
feels should kow tow to his wishes. You see, he just will not allow
anyone kick his favourite puppy, and of course that puppy's name is

It's ok Curbie, it really is a badge of distinction. Wear it with

Posted by Curbie on October 31, 2009, 4:48 pm


There are willful refusals to grasp concepts on both sides of this
conversation for example:
1. Anyone earns the RIGHT for engage in inappropriate behavior.
2.That as long as someone posts some useful information, they can bury
it in as many ads as they please.
1. Using this group for personal profit is inappropriate behavior and
it is being reasonable to point it out.
2. My objection to Steve's post is based the facts of his post which
you've mostly ignored, your objection of my post is based on your
personal opinions (earned rights, what's useful information, trying to
get people's money is no skin off their nose, ...).
3. That a second attempt at dragging me into your flame wars, will be
any more successful than the first.

When I ask for help, it's a request not a demand, so anyone is free to
not reply for any reason they choose. On the other hand, I choose to
help where I can because in my view, that the purpose of this place.


Posted by news on October 29, 2009, 4:13 pm

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:39:41 -0700 (PDT), sspence

Any link that leads to a page that looks like this:
is spam.

I've seen just about all of these MLM schemes.   The web pages are
immediately identifiable because they have nearly identical formats -
long, narrow, with big type and  repetitive links centered in the

If the "freebie" was really that great, it would be described in one
or two screens of information, with links to the details.  Take a look
at the free software packages at sourceforge.com - most of the intro
pages are one or two screens of info, with lots of links to the


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