Posted by Martin Riddle on June 5, 2010, 10:47 pm
>>
>>> Speaking of storing gas. Does anyone know of a good source of 5 gal
>>> Jerry cans?
>>
>> No, but perhaps I should also be looking.
>>
>> The old Mil style. I have 2 left, and the new poly cans
>>> seem to leak even tho they hold pressure.
>>
>> I am convinced that they seep right through the plastic. After 18
>> months of storage, I usually have about 4 gallons left in a 5 gallon
>> plastic can, even though I close them up very carefully. In the
>> warmest part of the afternoon, there is often a distinct odor of
>> gasoline in my storage shed.
>>
> I don't know about the type that is used for gas, but I do know the
> plastic used for the soft drink bottles will let out the carbonation
> gas. I work for a company that makes the polyester that is used in
> the bottles. If you look at the 2 or 3 liter bottles on the store
> shelves you will see some that look fuller than the others. Do not
> get them,but get the ones that look like they have less in them. They
> are fresher. When the gas escapes the bottles are not pushed out as
> much so it looks like the level in them goes up.
> That is one reason beer is not put in those kinds of plastic bottles.
> Goes flat to soon.
That pretty much verifies the theory with the poly cans. Looks like
CARB has some new regs and the standard 4 tab cap jerry cans are no
longer available. I'll have to keep searching.
Cheers
Posted by Bruce in alaska on June 6, 2010, 5:32 pm
> I am convinced that they seep right through the plastic. After 18 months of
> storage, I usually have about 4 gallons left in a 5 gallon plastic can, even
> though I close them up very carefully. In the warmest part of the afternoon,
> there is often a distinct odor of gasoline in my storage shed.
>
> I have even considered a 55-gallon steel drum, but part of my rational is to
> have gas on hand to evacuate with. In that case, I would probably carry at
> least an extra tank of gas with me, because gas stations will be empty, and
> the
> roads are liable to be jammed and glacially slow.
>
> Vaughn
Use the 55 USG Drum, to fill up your plastic Jugs as you get ready to
Bug Out.....
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Posted by David Lesher on June 5, 2010, 3:54 pm
I'm looking for a real breakdown of diesel vs. propane, in the
15-25KW range. Obviously, [for a given fuel cost] there will be
some # of hours, below which propane wins and above that, diesel does.
I need to be able to quantify that. Has anyone seen a case study?
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Posted by amdx on June 8, 2010, 10:23 pm
> I'm looking for a real breakdown of diesel vs. propane, in the
> 15-25KW range. Obviously, [for a given fuel cost] there will be
> some # of hours, below which propane wins and above that, diesel does.
> I need to be able to quantify that. Has anyone seen a case study?
> --
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> Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
> is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
Well, on that and a different subject, I looked at Miller welders today.
The Bobcat 250 is $,474 + $44tx = $,718 9500 watts continuous,
11,000 peak. Only $00 more than the Honda and an extra 3500 watt
capability.
Disadvantages , it is louder, uses more fuel, slightly more costly (unless
I mail order out of state, no taxes)
Advantages, more capacity, It's a welder, should hold value, can be sold as
a little used welder.
Any opinions?
Mike
Posted by vaughn on June 8, 2010, 11:14 pm
> Disadvantages , it is louder, uses more fuel, slightly more costly (unless I
> mail order out of state, no taxes)
> Advantages, more capacity, It's a welder, should hold value, can be sold as a
> little used welder.
> Any opinions?
It depends on lots of things. First, how often do you need a portable welder?
If the answer is "never" or even "rarely" then why pay more? Second; what about
the engine? For example: is it name brand or Chinese? What kind of reputation
does that engine have in the industry?
Regardless, you will likely need to search beyond this group for reviews on that
unit.
Vaughn
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>>> Speaking of storing gas. Does anyone know of a good source of 5 gal
>>> Jerry cans?
>>
>> No, but perhaps I should also be looking.
>>
>> The old Mil style. I have 2 left, and the new poly cans
>>> seem to leak even tho they hold pressure.
>>
>> I am convinced that they seep right through the plastic. After 18
>> months of storage, I usually have about 4 gallons left in a 5 gallon
>> plastic can, even though I close them up very carefully. In the
>> warmest part of the afternoon, there is often a distinct odor of
>> gasoline in my storage shed.
>>
> I don't know about the type that is used for gas, but I do know the
> plastic used for the soft drink bottles will let out the carbonation
> gas. I work for a company that makes the polyester that is used in
> the bottles. If you look at the 2 or 3 liter bottles on the store
> shelves you will see some that look fuller than the others. Do not
> get them,but get the ones that look like they have less in them. They
> are fresher. When the gas escapes the bottles are not pushed out as
> much so it looks like the level in them goes up.
> That is one reason beer is not put in those kinds of plastic bottles.
> Goes flat to soon.