Posted by user on June 9, 2009, 4:48 pm
Lord Gow333, Joey Styles' newest fan! wrote:
>
>> Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's newest fan! wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's newest fan! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nice strawman. So we wouldn't be energy independant. I havn't
>>>>>>>> researched it,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do some research then before you make blanket statements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but I suspect the domestic oil could
>>>>>>>> reduce our dependance on foreign oil by quite a bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it won't, even T.Boone Pickens, the most famous Oil man in
>>>>>>> the USA admits that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Environmentalists shutting down drilling by force of law, I
>>>>>>>> don't call that free market.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who had complete control of every branch of the government,
>>>>>>> including the EPA until January 2007?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A. Environmentalists
>>>>>>> B. The Sierra Club
>>>>>>> C. The Democrats
>>>>>>> D. The Republicans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Answer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D. The Drill baby Drill crowd, the Republicans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i have been continuously very amazed conservative people aren't
>>>>>> clamoring to "burn their oil first!" save our oil for when theirs
>>>>>> runs out (after we burn all theirs up).
>>>>>
>>>>> A) We believe in the free market.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When it suits you.
>>>
>>> When does it not?
>>
>>
>> When the free market poisons your air, builds a pig farm down the
>> road, expropriate your house to build a mall etc...
>
> That's not the free market.
If someone has permission to build a pig farm or factory,yes it is.
The market has determined these products are needed and you are impeding
the process.
That's abuse of the free market. Now more
> than ever before these abuses will be well known and people will choose
> to boycott these business.
Not when they own shares in them they won't
Then they will go out of business in favor of
> more responsible companies. THAT is the free market.
You are living in dreamland
>
>>>>> B) We believe in property owners rights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Everything is okay until whatever is going on effects your backyard.
>>>
>>> Thus infringing on property owners rights. What's your point?
>>
>>
>> Only when it comes to your own property rights. As long as there's a
>> profit in it, it doesn't seem to bother republicans very much when a
>> corporation pumps waste into someone else's well.
>
> Bullshit.
It's the truth, the republican NIMBY situations are well known. Business
is great as long as it's not in your back yard.
>
>>>>> & C) We don't believe in punishing ourselves by limiting our
>>>>> options while we wait for the "perfect" solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We don't give shit because we've got ours ;~)
>>>
>>> We got ours. Here's how we did it. Go get yours.
>>
>>
>> I got mine, but I understand my well being and advancement depended on
>> others. You got yours with help from everyone else, the community who
>> paid for the infrastructure that provided your security, education and
>> well being from the day you were born.
>
> The community provides basic survival.
Hardly, it provides everything you need to run a business. Roads,
hospitals, fire departments, state and federal control of banking,
investments education, national and state defense etc... all of which
guarantees' your customers the stability to spend money.
Everything beyond that is up to
> me.
You get a job or set up your own business, hardly everything.
Most businessmen, not all but most, are willing to mentor
> enthusiastic apprentices (Here's how we did it. Go get yours) and donate
> to local causes. That is how they pay back the community, and letting
> them keep their tax money encourages that.
LOL, my business does not require "Apprentices", those that do, do it
for sound business reasons, not out of philanthropy. As far as taxation
goes, any businessman worth his salt has ton's of write offs already.
>
> LG
Posted by William Wixon on June 10, 2009, 12:25 am
> Lord Gow333, Joey Styles' newest fan! wrote:
> Then they will go out of business in favor of
>> more responsible companies. THAT is the free market.
> You are living in dreamland
lol! that was my exact reaction too from reading lord gow's (entire) post.
"keep dreaming".
b.w.
Posted by Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's n on June 6, 2009, 12:10 am
> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> Nice strawman. So we wouldn't be energy independant. I havn't researched
>> it,
> Do some research then before you make blanket statements
> but I suspect the domestic oil could
>> reduce our dependance on foreign oil by quite a bit.
> No, it won't, even T.Boone Pickens, the most famous Oil man in the USA
> admits that.
>>
>> Environmentalists shutting down drilling by force of law, I don't call
>> that free market.
> Question:
> Who had complete control of every branch of the government, including the
> EPA until January 2007?
> A. Environmentalists
> B. The Sierra Club
> C. The Democrats
> D. The Republicans
> Answer:
> D. The Drill baby Drill crowd, the Republicans
They're the ones who kept gas below $3 a gallon, right?
LG
--
"I am a Democrat and here is my energy plan" (holding up a picture of an old
VW Bug with a sail attached to it) - Rep Devin Nunes
Posted by William Wixon on June 6, 2009, 1:20 am
>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> Nice strawman. So we wouldn't be energy independant. I havn't researched
>>> it,
>>
>>
>> Do some research then before you make blanket statements
>>
>>
>> but I suspect the domestic oil could
>>> reduce our dependance on foreign oil by quite a bit.
>>
>>
>> No, it won't, even T.Boone Pickens, the most famous Oil man in the USA
>> admits that.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Environmentalists shutting down drilling by force of law, I don't call
>>> that free market.
>>
>>
>>
>> Question:
>>
>> Who had complete control of every branch of the government, including the
>> EPA until January 2007?
>>
>> A. Environmentalists
>> B. The Sierra Club
>> C. The Democrats
>> D. The Republicans
>>
>> Answer:
>>
>>
>> D. The Drill baby Drill crowd, the Republicans
> They're the ones who kept gas below $3 a gallon, right?
> LG
probably with massive subsidies to the oil companies. you tax dollars.
seems the republicans know how best to spend your tax dollars. it's a sweet
set up, they take money out of your pocket, give it to the oil companies and
then you can be pleased at the pump you're paying less than $3 and it's your
team who's doing it. saw a post by a german the other day, he said gasoline
is over $6/gal. there, that's probably the TRUE cost of gasoline
(everywhere).
b.w.
btw, i loved krugman's column the other day, ripping reagan, pinpointed his
administration as the beginning of the downfall of our once great united
states.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/opinion/01krugman.html?_r=1
Posted by Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's n on June 6, 2009, 10:07 pm
>>
>>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>>> Nice strawman. So we wouldn't be energy independant. I havn't
>>>> researched it,
>>>
>>>
>>> Do some research then before you make blanket statements
>>>
>>>
>>> but I suspect the domestic oil could
>>>> reduce our dependance on foreign oil by quite a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>> No, it won't, even T.Boone Pickens, the most famous Oil man in the USA
>>> admits that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Environmentalists shutting down drilling by force of law, I don't call
>>>> that free market.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Question:
>>>
>>> Who had complete control of every branch of the government, including
>>> the EPA until January 2007?
>>>
>>> A. Environmentalists
>>> B. The Sierra Club
>>> C. The Democrats
>>> D. The Republicans
>>>
>>> Answer:
>>>
>>>
>>> D. The Drill baby Drill crowd, the Republicans
>>
>> They're the ones who kept gas below $3 a gallon, right?
>>
>> LG
> probably with massive subsidies to the oil companies. you tax dollars.
> seems the republicans know how best to spend your tax dollars.
Opinion voided.
LG
--
Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently. - Henry Ford
>> Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's newest fan! wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lord Gow333, Dirk Benedict's newest fan! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nice strawman. So we wouldn't be energy independant. I havn't
>>>>>>>> researched it,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do some research then before you make blanket statements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but I suspect the domestic oil could
>>>>>>>> reduce our dependance on foreign oil by quite a bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it won't, even T.Boone Pickens, the most famous Oil man in
>>>>>>> the USA admits that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Environmentalists shutting down drilling by force of law, I
>>>>>>>> don't call that free market.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who had complete control of every branch of the government,
>>>>>>> including the EPA until January 2007?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A. Environmentalists
>>>>>>> B. The Sierra Club
>>>>>>> C. The Democrats
>>>>>>> D. The Republicans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Answer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D. The Drill baby Drill crowd, the Republicans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i have been continuously very amazed conservative people aren't
>>>>>> clamoring to "burn their oil first!" save our oil for when theirs
>>>>>> runs out (after we burn all theirs up).
>>>>>
>>>>> A) We believe in the free market.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When it suits you.
>>>
>>> When does it not?
>>
>>
>> When the free market poisons your air, builds a pig farm down the
>> road, expropriate your house to build a mall etc...
>
> That's not the free market.