Posted by Larry Caldwell on March 16, 2006, 1:50 pm
Question moved to alt.energy.homepower.
All I really know is that people around here get by just fine off the
grid, which is a convenience rather than a necessity. They minimize
their electricity use with propane hot water, clothes dryer and range.
Some even have a propane refrigerator or freezer, though the ammonia
cycle appliances seem to be outrageously expensive. After a water
heater, the big momentary electrical demand in a house is the well pump,
so most home power homes set up some sort of gravity feed water.
I have visited one place where the guy ran the whole house off of a
photovoltaic rig, with just occasional generator use.
Also, during the California energy crisis, people were running their own
generators and getting by cheaper than the inflated grid prices, but
fuel prices have gone up and electricity costs went back down.
alt.google@Kryder.com (philkryder) says...
Posted by Derek Broughton on March 16, 2006, 6:00 pm
Larry Caldwell wrote:
I'd be surprised if that's true. You can't get enough water pressure to
suit most people from a gravity feed in a two story home.
I would agree that the pump is a vital component. Our initial PV electrical
system was set up purely to get water. Everything else, including
lighting, was propane. We use a 24VDC pump. Works great.
Posted by Larry Caldwell on March 16, 2006, 7:41 pm
Geography makes a big difference. Around here, you normally don't have
to go far from the house to find a 60' head. People just use a
generator and pump to fill a cistern every 2 or 3 days, and do gravity
feed the rest of the time. If they can find a high water source, they
don't even need a pump. If you are a flatlander, you need to find a
Gaslights are nice, but even my travel trailer uses fluorescents. If
you have an inverter, a 7 watt compact fluorescent will provide plenty
of light in a conventional fixture.
Posted by Derek Broughton on March 17, 2006, 12:03 am
Larry Caldwell wrote:
LOL. I didn't mean to imply that was actually the way I live _now_. Sorry.
When we first had a cottage here, we installed 24VDC off a 100W PV panel
and 400AH of battery (way more than we needed!) to run the well pump, and
everything else was propane. When I moved in full time, I doubled the
panels and started running 24V lighting too. When my wife joined me, we
put in a whole separate system with AC.
Posted by Me on March 17, 2006, 7:16 pm
Isn't it amazing that it takes a woman, to finally get things
Me just an observation.....