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Posted by Tom P on May 7, 2012, 8:54 pm
 
On 05/06/2012 04:44 AM, Morris Dovey wrote:

Thanks for the tip. I find http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer

There is no way you can get any net energy out of a reaction between
hydrogen and nickel, either nuclear or otherwise. If it's chemical just
work out how much energy you need to produce atomic hydrogen.

If it's nuclear, then work out the precise atomic weights and binding
energies.

Naturally occurring nickel (Ni) is composed of five stable isotopes;
58Ni, 60Ni, 61Ni, 62Ni and 64Ni with 58Ni being the most abundant.

There are 29 isotopes of copper. 63Cu and 65Cu are stable, with 63Cu
comprising approximately 69% of naturally occurring copper; they both
have a spin of 3/2.[12] The other isotopes are radioactive, with the
most stable being 67Cu with a half-life of 61.83 hours.[12]

So supposing that the reaction involves stable isotopes, the possible
reactions would seem to be
  62Ni28 + H -> 63Cu29  3%
  64Ni28 + H -> 65Cu29  0.1%
  61Ni28 + D -> 63Cu29  1%

  The percentages are the relative natural occurrences of the isotopes.
Deuterium occurs naturally at around 0.015%.

The problem is that all elements around this atomic weight have the
highest binding energies - see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_binding_energy#Nuclear_binding_energy_curve  
   - this means that it is hard to see how nuclear reactions can produce
any excess energy.

If have yet to find anything published by Rossi that shows how excess
energy can be produced.



Posted by Morris Dovey on May 8, 2012, 12:26 am
 
On 5/7/12 3:54 PM, Tom P wrote:


And yet there are reports that being done. I'm not competent to make
this call, but I'm interested enough to want to see for myself. I have a
deep and abiding respect for scientific method - but a lot less for any
kind of claim that 'we know all there is to be known' about this.


I agree. I'd already read that (and other) articles...


Agree again/still. I've been frustrated that Rossi is not, and doesn't
act like, a scientist. OTOH, he doesn't believe that it's in his best
interest to provide full disclosure of his findings or opinions - and
I'm in no position to fault him for that.

--
Morris Dovey
http://www.iedu.com/Solar/LENR
http://www.facebook.com/MorrisDovey

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