Anthony Matonak wrote:
> Neon John wrote:
> ...
> > Hydrogen isn't an energy source. It's simply a particularly
> > inefficient method of transporting energy made by some other means. If
someone asked
> > me to come up with THE worst possible energy transport mechanism, I couldn't
think of
> > anything much worse.
> There is always something much worse. Not being able to think of it just
> means a failure of research and imagination. :)
Compressed air is pretty bad.
Graham
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:31:08 -0700, Anthony Matonak
>Neon John wrote:
>...
>> Hydrogen isn't an energy source. It's simply a particularly
>> inefficient method of transporting energy made by some other means. If
someone asked
>> me to come up with THE worst possible energy transport mechanism, I couldn't
think of
>> anything much worse.
>There is always something much worse. Not being able to think of it just
>means a failure of research and imagination. :)
>Consider the idea of broadcast electromagnetic energy that was put
>forward some time back by a now rather famous fellow. This is so
>incredibly inefficient that the vast majority of the energy is just
>wasted. The advantage of wireless transmission of electricity is far
>outweighed by the waste of energy and the occasional cooked trespasser.
I was trying to limit my consideration to things that might actually work in the
practical sense. Common ordinary radio and TV transmitters transmit actual
energy
over long distances, enough to tickle the input stage of the receiver but few
people
would suggest that useful amounts of power could be sent that way. Except for
the
"solar stations in space beaming back power as microwaves" nuts, of course. I
haven't heard from that bunch in quite awhile.
The sad part is, all that tax money that is being wasted on this hydrogen crap
(yet
more welfare to the business class) could actually accomplish something. Think
how
many roadways could be electrified (embedded in the center of the lane or even
overhead). Hybrid powertrain architecture is perfect for that - get power from
the
grid when on major roads, run on batteries elsewhere and run the fuel engine as
the
last resort.
Both the engineering and the technology are old and straightforward, as is the
path
to implementation. Plop down a couple hundred small nuke plants around the
country
along with the necessary transmission infrastructure, install the roadway
distribution system, decide on a revenue model (tolls or in-car metering, for
example) and let 'er rip. Under or overhead conductive power pickups would add
only
a trivial cost to the individual car. The hybrid's on-board battery would let
the
vehicle drive through areas where live conductors would be undesirable -
cross-walks,
for example.
Simple, straightforward and relatively inexpensive. No wonder the government
loathes
that kind of solution.
John
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:31:08 -0700, Anthony Matonak
>Consider the idea of broadcast electromagnetic energy that was put
>forward some time back by a now rather famous fellow. This is so
>incredibly inefficient that the vast majority of the energy is just
>wasted.
Yes, and I am enjoying some of that "waste" heat today myself !!
If you think about it, most of our energy already comes from
electromagnetic radiation... AND Fusion energy at that !!
No need to transmit it yourself like Tesla wanted to do. Too much
trouble !
boB
for example: example:
www.wirelessfusion.org
>Neon John wrote:
>...
>> Hydrogen isn't an energy source. It's simply a particularly
>> inefficient method of transporting energy made by some other means. If
someone asked
>> me to come up with THE worst possible energy transport mechanism, I couldn't
think of
>> anything much worse.
>There is always something much worse. Not being able to think of it just
>means a failure of research and imagination. :)
>Consider the idea of broadcast electromagnetic energy that was put
>forward some time back by a now rather famous fellow. This is so
>incredibly inefficient that the vast majority of the energy is just
>wasted. The advantage of wireless transmission of electricity is far
>outweighed by the waste of energy and the occasional cooked trespasser.
>Anthony
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> > Hydrogen isn't an energy source. It's simply a particularly
> > inefficient method of transporting energy made by some other means. If