Posted by Karl on January 5, 2009, 1:01 pm
> >> I was wondering about hydrogen gas used as the fuel for a gas stove?
> >> I for one would prefer to use gas for cooking.
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How about regular old methane? Natural gas? Get a couple of digesters
and double buffer a batch production process.
I think that probably is the best solution. San Antonio is doing that on a
big scale too. Think of all the useful crap we flush every day! All that
energy goes to waste! REALLY, I'm totally serious. You would think somehow
it would make economic sense to process that and make money off the methane
as opposed to disposal cost associated with sewage.
Posted by sno on January 5, 2009, 7:42 pm
Karl wrote:
>>>> I was wondering about hydrogen gas used as the fuel for a gas stove?
>>>> I for one would prefer to use gas for cooking.
> =========================================
> How about regular old methane? Natural gas? Get a couple of digesters
> and double buffer a batch production process.
>
> I think that probably is the best solution. San Antonio is doing that on a
> big scale too. Think of all the useful crap we flush every day! All that
> energy goes to waste! REALLY, I'm totally serious. You would think somehow
> it would make economic sense to process that and make money off the methane
> as opposed to disposal cost associated with sewage.
>
>
Detroit, Michigan when I was a kid (many years ago) used to collect and
run their sewer pumps using sewer gas (which I believe is methane). I
wonder if any cities are doing this today..??
have fun....sno
Posted by Eeyore on January 5, 2009, 11:08 am
Karl wrote:
> > Karl wrote:
> >
> >> I was wondering about hydrogen gas used as the fuel for a gas stove?
> >
> > I'm sure it could but better be aware of the near invible flame scorching
> > you. How would you judge the heat if you can't see the flame ?
> >
> >> Has it ever been done?
> >
> > Not by anyone sane I would imagine.
> >
> >> Gas is a better cooking fuel but if solar power ever got
> >> cheap and it looks like it could happen
> >
> > And how did you come to that conclusion ?
> The cost for Solar power is going down.
From the insanely high existing prices.
> And new companies are innovating
> everyday pushing prices lower.
How many are ? How much are they producing ? Cite please.
> Also we have a new administration which
> could also help push prices lower through expanded tax credits.
NO. That's just taking money out of OTHER peoples' pockets. Stealing would be
another word for it. The real price is the same.
> personally i am hoping for innovators from the likes of nanosolar, first
> solar, and
> many other start ups who allege solar is going to get competitive with
> fossil fuels.
They can allege the moon is made of green cheese for all I would trust them.
Ever heard of investment scams ? Nanosolar refuse to release their actual
figures. Would YOU trust them ?
Graham
Posted by Eeyore on January 5, 2009, 11:13 am
David Williams wrote:
> -> I was wondering about hydrogen gas used as the fuel for a gas stove?
> In Britain, prior to about 1960 when natural gas from the North Sea
> became available, the gas that was piped to houses for cooking, etc.
> was "coal gas", made by heating coal. It was mostly hydrogen, although
> it did contain some methane, carbon monoxide, and other gases.
> It was a perfectly good fuel.
It was made by 'coking' coal.
Graham
Posted by William Wixon on January 15, 2009, 10:30 am
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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 3:05 PM
Subject: Hydrogen Gas for cooking
>I was wondering about hydrogen gas used as the fuel for a gas stove? Has
>it ever been done? Gas is a better cooking fuel but if solar power ever
>got cheap and it looks like it could happen, I for one would prefer to use
>gas for cooking. So one should be able to use solar electricity and make
>hyrdogen for a gas stove.
> Yeah I know electric stoves work fine. I just prefer gas. I'm just
> curious if this has been done or how feasible it is.
> Thanks
sorry, i just got this from "nasa science news", i hoped it would be
humorous to post this link to this thread. too bad nasa wouldn't throw a
couple thermocouples in there to recycle some of that ("wasted") energy huh?
(joking) or maybe weenie roast and toast marshmallows. it amazes me they
can use (even though it's in liquid form) a low energy fuel (hydrogen) to
make more thrust than kerosene etc. and wow they use a lot of money huh?
(just burning up that much liquid hydrogen in that one test alone, how much
electricity would they have had to use to make X? gallons of liquid
hydrogen! whew!) (i'm not opposed to the space program, just i never really
realized how much it must cost to do just one test.)
NASA Science News for January 15, 2009
The last place you'd expect to find icicles is around the rim of a scalding
hot and thundering rocket engine. Yet an engine being used by NASA to
develop technologies for next-generation lunar landers has been caught
producing icicles of unlikely beauty. Watch the process in action in today's
story from Science@NASA.
FULL STORY at
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/15jan_cece.htm?list716163
photo.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/16jul_cece.htm
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